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06-25-2018, 11:42 AM #1Junior Member
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Craz surf setup tips
I have recently purchased a 2016 Moomba Craz that I have been told has 900 in each rear, 700 center, and 500 bow sac ballast = 3,000 pounds total ballast weight. I can't find any markings on the flyhighsacs in the rear to confirm the 900 pounds.
My question is: I'm looking for advice on ballast settings, and both port and starboard tab settings for surfing left and right sides. I get the idea of the wakeplate but looking for advice for ballast and side surf tab settings. Thank you in advance to all that share their experience and tips.
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06-25-2018, 11:48 AM #2
Everything full and then forget side surf, surfplate at 50% wakeplate between 15-20%. For starboard side surf, surfplate at 65%. Speed about 10.8-11mph. Then have anyone extra in the boat sit on whatever side you are surfing as well.
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07-02-2018, 12:30 AM #3Junior Member
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Hey guys, I have essentially the same question. My brother bought one last year and we are still not thrilled with the setup as of yet. Our kids who weigh 100lbs fly around without the rope with ease, but my bro and I weight 175 and 165 respectively and while we can certainly surf, we have a 400lb fat sac on the rear bench and have to physically move it side to side as we surf opposite sides. And of course it takes up seating not to mention its a pita. So much he called me and said he was looking at trading it for a Centurion. He wants to jump in the boat and just hit the buttons, fill the tanks and surf. We have the resources to either mod the Moomba or buy a different boat but that seems a bit drastic. Must be some way to get this thing a little more dialed in. To the OP, we have a cabin on CDA so we are neighbors. : )
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07-02-2018, 08:00 AM #4
Get some “lead” ballast bags from wakeballast.com and keep that in the side lockers. I added 500# o. Top of the 1100’s I upgraded to in the rear lockers. At your weight you should have no issue. I’m 208 and can surf the Craz without any issues.
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07-03-2018, 01:12 PM #5
Try letting out a little water in the opposite rear bag so you have more tilt on your surf side. Mine doesn't have autowake so depending on how many ppl are in the boat and where they are seated, I try to get the boat slightly leaning surf side. Usually around 100% surf side/85% opposite/100% front is what works for me. I have the upgraded rear bags (1100's) so around 3400 total ballast and have no issues with the wave.
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07-07-2018, 09:25 PM #6Senior Member
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I have a 2016 Craz with 1100's in rear (which actually fill to probably between 900-1000) and center and bow. I fill all to overflowing, speed at 10.5, put wakeplate all the way up and surf tab on 35% for me to surf. I weigh 275 lbs. and have a Phase 5 Trident. I can surf ropeless all day long with only my wife and 11 year-old son in boat. With surf tab and wakeplate settings I use, the wave is very steep, but has push that will put me in the boat. I can surf probably 10 feet back or so like this. When I let my 11 year-old surf, I change surf tab to 70% and speed up to about 11-11.2 mph and put wakeplate all the way down. He has a Phase 5 Scamp and can probably surf 20 feet back! I was confused when I first bought boat about surf tabs. Lower percentage means steeper wave with more push but you can't surf as far back.
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1997 Sea Ray 175 Sport
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07-22-2018, 06:46 PM #7
You need at least 15 feet of water to make any decent waves to surf on. Sorry but that’s the truth any shallower than that and the lack of depth seriously affects the way the water is pushed under the boat to create a wave.
Also it is very easy to change the surf tab amount while on the fly if you are either in regular driving mode or in Cruise. You cannot change it while you are in autowake. To access it you have to press the right most button that lets you look at the ballast levels and then you use the up or down buttons that corresponds to the plus minus carats, and that will change the amount of deployment each surf tab deploys, individually, depending if you have the surf switch to the left or to the right.
The right surf tab is for surfing natural foot, a.k.a. the left (port) side of the boat, and the left surf tab is used for when you surf goofy on the right (starboard) side of the boat.
The screen will look like this
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07-22-2018, 06:48 PM #8
Craz surf setup tips
BTW, I have a 2017 Craz, so I apologize. The screens are totally different.
Last edited by Stazi; 07-22-2018 at 07:01 PM.
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07-22-2018, 11:48 PM #9Junior Member
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This is really helpful. thanks. The shallow water is an issue, but even when I get to the max depth of 25' in my lake the wave is just ok. The 'best' I can make it is when I really list the boat with almost all the ballast and all the people on one side. I wonder if I can upgrade my screen, yours looks easier than mine to adjust.
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07-22-2018, 11:55 PM #10Junior Member
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did I see a ballast bag on your rear seat? Is that the trick? more ballast in the rear? If I put more in front I'm afraid I'll swamp the boat.