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  1. #121
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    I got to say, whoever is welding the FAE pipes, that is an ugly weld.

    I still think the factory surf pipe ( I understand they also have cracked) with the fin acts as a vibration dampener.

    Sticking with the factory surf pipe.

    Heck, some used PVC pipe for this.


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  2. #122
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stazi View Post
    I pulled mine off again on Friday and reinstalled the factory outlet.
    I email FAE and got crickets this time. Not impressed. I told them that they need to gusset these or they will continue to crack. This is the second time it has cracked on me.




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    You won't hear anything from FAE, they blew me off saying they were going to update the install directions. Instead of replacing it.

    I ended up using larger bolts and welding a thicker bead on the problem area.
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  3. #123
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    I have two pro welders around my house. I’ll get one to fix properly, how it should be done!

    Also contemplating whether a brace from before the elbow back to the drain might be a better option like this.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Stazi View Post
    I have two pro welders around my house. I’ll get one to fix properly, how it should be done!

    Also contemplating whether a brace from before the elbow back to the drain might be a better option like this.



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    Or use a thicker flange and some small gussets.
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  5. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by larry_arizona View Post
    I got to say, whoever is welding the FAE pipes, that is an ugly weld.
    I'm not a welder but have seen enough over the years and yup. you hit it.....

    couple more threads like this and factory surf pipes being on par pricewise will drive fae to cease to exist.
    gotta innovate and make your product better than the oem.
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  6. #126
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    That and have better customer service.

    First time it failed they were great to respond and repair. This time they basically ignored my emails and I’m hearing I’m not the only one to get the cold shoulder.

    Not good business practice.


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    Default FAE Install Pics

    My guess is FAE is struggling keeping up with repairs and might be at the point of cutting their losses, just a guess.

    Besides the SC factory option and FAE, who else makes surf pipes for Moomba/Supras in the aftermarket?

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  8. #128
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    I bought the FAE for my boat in beginning of summer. due to timing of delivery and lots of life things, i did not install, planning to wait until mid summer when i had some planned time away from boating to allow the suggested out of water cure time. then i started seeing all these weld failure issues. kind of wondering if i get the flange modified and strengthened on my own before installing, or wait to see if FAE offers anything, or just abandon the FAE and think i just saved by boat from sinking due to a failed surf pipe?

    hmm. i guess i am just writing some of my thoughts
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  9. #129
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    Get gussets out on around the flange (like my pic) to strengthen the connection.

    Otherwise it will crack.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stazi View Post
    Get gussets out on around the flange (like my pic) to strengthen the connection.

    Otherwise it will crack.


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    I would increase the flange circumference and thickness, plus add gussets like Stazi said. A single gusset at the top for compression force, and two on the bottom thirds to manage tension. Stainless welds handle tension well, but compression not so good. Explains the micro-fissures on the upper weld surface. If you don't oppose that compression force with tension (place two gussets under compression and one under tension) the welds on the compressed gussets will crack again. Add heat and moisture into that space and you'll get 970 times the expansion when that moisture turns to water vapor.
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