Help Me Find My Next Boat

[Broke Pilot]

If I had to guess, I bet the next generation will see more sideways push from the plates, i.e. Malibu... that's the only progression I can imagine. Tige used to have that plate that looked like an extra swim platform underneath, but it only stayed a few years before they went to the TAPS3 plate system. So I agree, I don't know how bigger plates at this point could help, other than if they start beefing the plates up and using them to channel water in certain directions. And as I type that, doesn't the GSA system plates do something along those lines?

[trayson]

My humble opinion, but I would definitely not call the G23 the baddest surf boat around. Maybe the most expensive?


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Agreed. I regularly surf a G23. It's nice, but I've surfed way better.

[Broke Pilot]

I will admit The Centurion Ri217 we Demo'd was a crazy wave, can't imagine the 257! But the build quality was so poor. I love my SA, but I'm excited to see what the next progression of evrything is.

[KnoxMojo]

I think y'all may have misunderstood what I was trying to say...they put swell1 on the newer hulls then changed over to swell2, so the newer hulls haven't changed, but the plates did to better take advantage of the hulls. The nss system works well, but they still need extra weight to be really good. Also, I have read that dealers are denying claims for broken surf plates claiming people are using them as steps.....

[sivs1]

Interesting take this thread has turned. So in comparing these different surf systems is it the system? The hull? The amount of weight? Or more of a combination of all three?

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[dakota4ce]

Interesting take this thread has turned. So in comparing these different surf systems is it the system? The hull? The amount of weight? Or more of a combination of all three?

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For sure a combo of all three. Weight is probably the most basic of the ingredients. It takes a certain minimum no matter what system or hull you’re working with.


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[dakota4ce]

I think y'all may have misunderstood what I was trying to say...they put swell1 on the newer hulls then changed over to swell2, so the newer hulls haven't changed, but the plates did to better take advantage of the hulls. The nss system works well, but they still need extra weight to be really good. Also, I have read that dealers are denying claims for broken surf plates claiming people are using them as steps.....

I guess I don’t know for sure what you’re saying. Swell 2 works better than Swell on the same hulls, with the main change being size of the plate.

As far as claims for tabs being used as steps? Not sure at all what you’re driving at there. There was one mentioned here, but it was a broken actuator mount that ended up being covered by warranty.

Kind of sounds like manual flow apologetics if I read between the lines a little .




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[jmvotto]

If I had to guess, I bet the next generation will see more sideways push from the plates, i.e. Malibu... that's the only progression I can imagine. Tige used to have that plate that looked like an extra swim platform underneath, but it only stayed a few years before they went to the TAPS3 plate system. So I agree, I don't know how bigger plates at this point could help, other than if they start beefing the plates up and using them to channel water in certain directions. And as I type that, doesn't the GSA system plates do something along those lines?

Doubt any mfg will go with side ways push without a liscence agreement or the fear of getting sued . There’s a reason on two companies do it right now Malibu owns the rights and Nautique got sued , lost and now liscences the technology from Malibu , Mastercraft even settled on infringe the issues and paid a one time liscence fee . Do tabs it it for everyone else since trim tabs don’t have patent protection .

That why so many ghetto gates and suck gates work really well but essentially have to be diy or aftermarket

[sivs1]

So as we are going down this path who has the best out of the box solution that combines all three aspects? A lot of brands and huge price range has already been mentioned. So let's put some criteria in place, best boat under 100k and best boat over 100k? Provide support as to why.

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[jmvotto]

Ok I’m game over 100k Pavati most expensive Ferrari on the water. Just bad ass

Axis t23 Best wave with102 beam. Maybe the max but yet to see one