GI to reversible pump ballast upgrade

[crr1876]

Started the ballast upgrade today, took out my GI system and drilled new thru hulls and vent holes.

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For those of you who removed your old sprinkler setup did you worry about removing the wiring or just left it in place? Seems like a pain to cut all those zip ties and get it all out of that corrugated plastic running to the helm.


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[rdlangston13]

Started the ballast upgrade today, took out my GI system and drilled new thru hulls and vent holes.

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For those of you who removed your old sprinkler setup did you worry about removing the wiring or just left it in place? Seems like a pain to cut all those zip ties and get it all out of that corrugated plastic running to the helm.


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I just left it there, it wasn't connected to anything so there was no power going to any of it. I saw no reason to go through the effort of removing it.

[996scott]

I left mine there as well for the first year I think. The next year I was doing some work under the dash replacing a speedo and I just decided to clean things up and take it all out. It was kind of a pain but not too bad. Just leave it for now I would say

[Poison]

Did this last fall. I took the old wiring out, but I’m OCD. It’s not much of a chore when you already have the floor up and you have to rewire the switches anyway.

Won’t matter much either way. Just have to cut some zip ties and replace them when the new wires are in.


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[crr1876]

Thanks guys. I traced all the wiring and realized I have to cut the zip ties anyway to pull out the old 3/4” fill line and make way for 1” fill line!

So a couple questions I came across today.

I did not want to hard wire all three reversible pumps to the battery as I thought that seemed messy and already don’t like how many wires are in the port storage. So instead I bought this:

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I currently have this under the helm and was planning to swap them

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Anybody see any problem with this? Not sure what all is wired on there currently, will have to figure that out. The red wire that runs from my Perko common stud to that current distribution bar has this circuit breaker in it

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I realize each of these reversible pumps draws 15-20 amps and I have 3 so could anyone recommend an upgrade?? Honestly the guy I spoke to at WakeMAKERS told me an in-line fuse before that blue sea distribution block was overkill and not necessary. Any advice would be appreciated.




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[parrothd]

That breaker is only 50 amps so it may trip on pump startup if you kick all pumps on at the same time. Just turn each pump on separately, not all at once. I've used that fuse box before, since you already have the power terminal I'd just use it and return the fuse panel. Save yourself some work, also you may want to use breakers instead of fuses. They don't fit in that fuse box. I have these, they reset automatically.

https://www.amazon.com/Bussmann-CB22...2Bbreaker&th=1

[MJHSupra]

When I did my pump upgrade years ago, I bought a new blue-sea buss dual bar under the helm - not the same one you purchased. I used it for the 3 pumps and my LEDs. Picked a good size wire gauge and used a circuit breaker.

Battery > Surface Mount Circuit Breaker (not sure of the size) > Buss Bar
Buss Bar > Inline Fuse (30a) > Switches.

I think the pumps have a spike of 20-30a when they are first turned-on.

[MLA]

Thanks guys. I traced all the wiring and realized I have to cut the zip ties anyway to pull out the old 3/4” fill line and make way for 1” fill line!

So a couple questions I came across today.

I did not want to hard wire all three reversible pumps to the battery as I thought that seemed messy and already don’t like how many wires are in the port storage. So instead I bought this:

IMG_0352.JPG

I currently have this under the helm and was planning to swap them

IMG_0354.JPG

IMG_0355.JPG

Anybody see any problem with this? Not sure what all is wired on there currently, will have to figure that out. The red wire that runs from my Perko common stud to that current distribution bar has this circuit breaker in it

IMG_0350.JPG

I realize each of these reversible pumps draws 15-20 amps and I have 3 so could anyone recommend an upgrade?? Honestly the guy I spoke to at WakeMAKERS told me an in-line fuse before that blue sea distribution block was overkill and not necessary. Any advice would be appreciated.




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You are adding a potential of 60 amps more draw to the helm BUS circuit. Swapping from a BUS bar to that blue sea system fuse block does nothing to address this. Anyway you slice it, you are still adding up to 60A more draw.

[crr1876]

You are adding a potential of 60 amps more draw to the helm BUS circuit. Swapping from a BUS bar to that blue sea system fuse block does nothing to address this. Anyway you slice it, you are still adding up to 60A more draw.

So are you suggesting I swap out the 45amp circuit breaker for a larger 100amp like this?

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Would I need to go with a thicker gauge wire as well? My electrical knowledge is terrible please forgive me.


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[crr1876]

That breaker is only 50 amps so it may trip on pump startup if you kick all pumps on at the same time. Just turn each pump on separately, not all at once. I've used that fuse box before, since you already have the power terminal I'd just use it and return the fuse panel. Save yourself some work, also you may want to use breakers instead of fuses. They don't fit in that fuse box. I have these, they reset automatically.

https://www.amazon.com/Bussmann-CB22...2Bbreaker&th=1

So do you have those in an in-line fuse like what comes with the kit? Curious how your wiring runs from the battery to your switch if you don’t mind.


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