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    Quote Originally Posted by sandm View Post
    that's what she asked

    glad to see moomba showing up at the event this time. they were there in '12 but something about lawyers wouldn't let the mojo participate. was a letdown.
    now lets hope they brought "real world" ballast with them and have the boat set up for the best wave not the factory setting.
    surfed an enzo 244 at the '12 and they didn't bring what the boat really needed to shine. was hands down the biggest bust of the event and heard that from almost everyone.
    they had the max at the polar bear weighted with 3000 pounds of factory ballast and then they added a 750 on each side under the seats. so about 4500 pounds!!! I would love to play on that.
    2008 Moomba Mobius XLV. Monster Cargo Bimini, WS Rev 410's, Polk Cabins, 3 Infinity Subs, PPI amps, WS420, Exile BT, upgraded ballast pumps, up to 3,500+ pounds of ballast, Blue LED's...
    1992 Supra Sunsport. **SOLD** 2k pounds ballast, Surf System, Blue LED's everywhere, decent audio system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sivs1 View Post
    Would you buy a Max over the other boats there?
    For my money, I'm not bothered by the MAX not having all the "frills" of the other boats. There are some things that are done for it that I wouldn't do, but you can see that they were done for cost savings. I would not do their tower speakers as I'd want something louder. The MAX Bimini is a little smaller than I'd like, and doesn't have surf pockets, so I'd do something aftermarket. The interior vinyl is all good quality, however there is less detailing and fewer panels than some of the offerings, which makes perfect sense for the lower price point.

    If I were considering purchasing ANY of the boats that I rode at the Polar Bear, the MAX would definitely be towards the top of my list, The amount and wave you get for the money is kind of awesome. If you consider that the boat next to it is roughly 2x the cost, you could have a much lower payment or initial cash outlay with the MAX vs the G23. It reminds me of the size and quality of the wave on the Supreme V226 when it first came out, however this being a Skiiers Choice boat it probably won't be a one trick wakesurf pony, and will actually be able to put up a decent wakeboard wake as well. (I've not seen this in person, so it is just a guess based on hull design.

    I don't think the MAX will hurt the sales of any of the top tier boats (Supra SE series, Supra SG, Centurion RI257, RI237, Fi23, Nautiques, Mastercrafts,etc.) As if you have the money you'll get what you want. I do see it taking a huge slice out of Axis and maybe Supreme, but Skiiers Choice will have to bump up production numbers as I do believe in the current marketplace demand will outstrip supply.

    Bottom line, the MAX is a winner.

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    I was thinking about this thread on Saturday



    I was rafted up next to my buddy's G23. The difference between my freeboard and his was dramatic. So I'd probably die with the difference between my XLV and a Max if they were floating next to each other!

    Picture was taken from the level of my gunwales. No photo trickery.



    And I told him to NOT turn on his bilge pump!!!
    2008 Moomba Mobius XLV. Monster Cargo Bimini, WS Rev 410's, Polk Cabins, 3 Infinity Subs, PPI amps, WS420, Exile BT, upgraded ballast pumps, up to 3,500+ pounds of ballast, Blue LED's...
    1992 Supra Sunsport. **SOLD** 2k pounds ballast, Surf System, Blue LED's everywhere, decent audio system.
    Tow Rig: 2013 F150 Ecoboost FX4 (wife's rig) Other money pits include:1998 BMW M3 Cabriolet, 2009 Audic A6 Avant 3.0T, 2005 Kawasaki ZX-6R 636.
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    Weird how the g23 platform goes across the whole stearn the boat

    Not trying to stir the pot but wouldn't a 1000 lb heavier boat sit lower and deeper in the water ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmvotto View Post
    Weird how the g23 platform goes across the whole stearn the boat

    Not trying to stir the pot but wouldn't a 1000 lb heavier boat sit lower and deeper in the water ?
    Yes, the G23 platform is huge. I can say having surfed behind the G23 with stock 3,000lbs ballast many times, that the width of the platform is irrelevant because the platform is never touching the water when surfing or wakeboarding. in fact, the first time I surfed behind the G23, there was no way that I was even going to attempt a platform stop at the end of my surf session because the whole platform was a few inches out of the water and I would have had to hop my board up on it. Since then we've figured ways to either turn the boat a little or to slow the boat enough that the platform gets close enough to the surface of the water to do a platform stop.

    As far as draft, I can't really speak to that. Obviously it's plenty possible that boats of 2 different weights would draft equally.
    2008 Moomba Mobius XLV. Monster Cargo Bimini, WS Rev 410's, Polk Cabins, 3 Infinity Subs, PPI amps, WS420, Exile BT, upgraded ballast pumps, up to 3,500+ pounds of ballast, Blue LED's...
    1992 Supra Sunsport. **SOLD** 2k pounds ballast, Surf System, Blue LED's everywhere, decent audio system.
    Tow Rig: 2013 F150 Ecoboost FX4 (wife's rig) Other money pits include:1998 BMW M3 Cabriolet, 2009 Audic A6 Avant 3.0T, 2005 Kawasaki ZX-6R 636.
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    I think its to the point that all these companies are just trying to make the deepest boat for the sake of being deeper than the other. The g looks like a brick already. Add 4 more inches of freeboard and it is down right hideous on a 23 foot boat. All the inovations these overpriced toys cost you would think they could make them look good going down the lake.

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