New to me 2007 XLV - Ballast pump setup

[timmerz]

I just purchases a new to me 2007 XLV. It will be for surf/wake. I've read into the ballast setup, funky at best (mine isn't working that great). I plan to update pumps, and get the 1000ish pound bags for rear. What are most people going to? Seems like 3 aerator pumps with independent intakes and vented loops would be the easiest/cheapest setup. Can the sprinkler pump relay deliver enough power for an aerator pump? will the 1 intake feed 3 pumps ok?Are the aerator pumps just a waste of time and money instead of just getting the wakemaker reversible setup?

[Stazi]

Get 1100's and a reversible setup with 3 separate intakes.


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[gregski]

Can the sprinkler pump relay deliver enough power for an aerator pump? will the 1 intake feed 3 pumps ok?Are the aerator pumps just a waste of time and money instead of just getting the wakemaker reversible setup?

My opinion is that the aerators are not worth the time/money and I think a few here have gone down the path of individual aerators thinking it was a cost savings but decided it wasn't significant after all the extra plumbing is factored in. I would recommend 3 reversible pumps with dedicated through hull intakes. The sprinkler relays are part of the valve. The dash switches can handle the higher current but the original wiring is too small.

[aerolland]

My opinion is that the aerators are not worth the time/money and I think a few here have gone down the path of individual aerators thinking it was a cost savings but decided it wasn't significant after all the extra plumbing is factored in. I would recommend 3 reversible pumps with dedicated through hull intakes. The sprinkler relays are part of the valve. The dash switches can handle the higher current but the original wiring is too small.

I would disagree with this, however, I have not owned reversible pumps - I just hear the highs and lows of ownership. I went this route on my '08 OBV and have been thoroughly impressed, in fact I was so impressed with the upgrade that I abandoned/delayed my 2nd large aerator pump install. I can fill my 2,700 lb system in 18-20 minutes, usually the same amount of time it takes to idle from the landing to our riding spot. I only have ~$40 in each valve, plush some % for manifold fittings (minimal). I didn't even go through with upgrading to 1" fill lines after initial testing. I have details on the flow analysis I did before gambling on these valves if interested, just ask - but fair warned, it's rather 'nerdy'.

Old way:


New way:


Notice the new manifold has room for an expansion inlet. I may change that thought and put a 4th valve there to fill a surfside custom bag, ~300lbs, where the cooler used to be...

[parrothd]

Reversible pumps, just easier and works better..

[kaneboats]

I've added a couple thru hull fittings and run about 2250 lbs. plus a sucgate. I have two aerators filling each "zone" and can fill everything in about 6-7 min. I used check valves close to the bags to keep them from siphoning back. (I made a manifold like the one in the post above but then just deleted the whole thing later.)

When I went to this system the reversibles others were installing were burning through impellers all the time. They have since come out with impellers made from much better material. For me it's kind of a toss-up. The reversibles are neat and easy but expensive. The aerators, done right, are faster but have their own problems. Occasionally you will get an air bubble somewhere and have to pull a line and work it out.

[Jeepers]

I would disagree with this, however, I have not owned reversible pumps - I just hear the highs and lows of ownership. I went this route on my '08 OBV and have been thoroughly impressed, in fact I was so impressed with the upgrade that I abandoned/delayed my 2nd large aerator pump install. I can fill my 2,700 lb system in 18-20 minutes, usually the same amount of time it takes to idle from the landing to our riding spot. I only have ~$40 in each valve, plush some % for manifold fittings (minimal). I didn't even go through with upgrading to 1" fill lines after initial testing. I have details on the flow analysis I did before gambling on these valves if interested, just ask - but fair warned, it's rather 'nerdy'.

Old way:


New way:


Notice the new manifold has room for an expansion inlet. I may change that thought and put a 4th valve there to fill a surfside custom bag, ~300lbs, where the cooler used to be...

That's it! Works like a charm! The 1 big rule pumps more water than three individual reversible pumps. I fill 2700#'s in under 20minutes.


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[trayson]

I wouldn't waste the money on the reversibles. Pull those sprinkler valves off, throw them in the garbage and replace with 3/4 electric ball valves wired to the existing sprinkler valve wiring. Add vent lines and check valves and you're done. It will fill faster than the reversible pumps. It's easier, cheaper and works as good.

Search eBay for the electric ball valves. They're maybe $50 each.


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If he wants to go with the electric ball valves, I'd be happy to sell him a pair for $50 shipped for both.
https://forum.moomba.com/showthread....ed-Ball-Valves

That's it! Works like a charm! The 1 big rule pumps more water than three individual reversible pumps. I fill 2700#'s in under 20minutes.


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20 minutes is too long for me. I can do 3500+ pounds of ballast (and I regularly do) in ~8 minutes. Did I have to pay for my upgrade in time and money? Yup. But I wouldn't go back and do it with any other solution that would take longer.

[Jeepers]

If he wants to go with the electric ball valves, I'd be happy to sell him a pair for $50 shipped for both.
https://forum.moomba.com/showthread....ed-Ball-Valves





20 minutes is too long for me. I can do 3500+ pounds of ballast (and I regularly do) in ~8 minutes. Did I have to pay for my upgrade in time and money? Yup. But I wouldn't go back and do it with any other solution that would take longer.

Are you using diesel sump pump and 2" lines?


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[timmerz]

last post didnt go through, sorry If I double.
I ordered some electric ball valves, seems like a cheap way to get going with busted valves. Boat is still at dealership getting brakes fixed. Is the inlet from the pump 1 1/8 and output to bags 3/4? I'd like to put manifold together this afternoon.