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  1. #351
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    Quote Originally Posted by goose View Post

    Start with your current best setup. In this case you are talking about having the port plate set at 80%. Let AutoWake do its thing and see how the wake looks and feels. Then go into manual mode and on the controls page slowly move the port plate all the way down to 100% by moving it 5% at a time. Then, move the plate all the way to 0%, again 5% at a time. As you do that you can physically watch the shape of the wave change. If you turn on AutoWake, you would also see both the roll AND pitch change as you did that (you can't adjust plates with AW on, so you would have to turn on each time). As you do that what you will find is there will be a range of where the wave looks best. It is likely the wave will be completely washed out from 0-35%. Then around 40% it will start to clean up and then about 85%, it will start to lose any lip to the wave. Now you will see based on your current ballast setup, what the range of plate you can be. Truth is you will get the most push on the low side of that range and the most length on the high side of that range.
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    Just want to clarify... If I've toggled to the so called second screen and we are surfing goofy and AW engaged we will see the Port tab and wakeplate setting. I can adjust wakeplate easily and see wave change. The up/down arrows under the button on dash allow for port plate to move 5% at a time. Is it correct, as Goose mentioned, that you cannot adjust on the fly while AW is engaged?

    I can press the up/down arrow and see the numbers move and I swear the wave changes, but maybe the display is changing and the plate is actually staying at the position it was in when AW was engaged and cruise speed reached. We have a 2017 Craz Surf Edition. I have NOT updated firmware, still same firmware that boat came with. Maybe that is the difference. I'm actually updating firmware this weekend so we can calibrate roll independently from pitch

  2. #352
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    Quote Originally Posted by lidsterl View Post
    Just want to clarify... If I've toggled to the so called second screen and we are surfing goofy and AW engaged we will see the Port tab and wakeplate setting. I can adjust wakeplate easily and see wave change. The up/down arrows under the button on dash allow for port plate to move 5% at a time. Is it correct, as Goose mentioned, that you cannot adjust on the fly while AW is engaged?

    I can press the up/down arrow and see the numbers move and I swear the wave changes, but maybe the display is changing and the plate is actually staying at the position it was in when AW was engaged and cruise speed reached. We have a 2017 Craz Surf Edition. I have NOT updated firmware, still same firmware that boat came with. Maybe that is the difference. I'm actually updating firmware this weekend so we can calibrate roll independently from pitch
    Yes that is correct, with the original version software you can toggle your surf plates up and down with autowake engaged, the new software you cannot while autowake is engaged.

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  3. #353
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevemarich View Post
    Yes that is correct, with the original version software you can toggle your surf plates up and down with autowake engaged, the new software you cannot while autowake is engaged.

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    Agreed


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  4. #354
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    I played around with ballast fill times to make sure my tanks were in fact full when the timers turned the pumps off. I've reset them back to a few seconds longer than factory (6:30 rears and 10:30 bow, vs 6 and 10). I think when I increased the times to fill the drain times also increased. Now that I've set them back to close to factory specs, I think the drain times stayed at the higher settings. Are the fill and drain times supposed to match?
    Also, any tips on getting the last of the water out of the tanks before I go for a ski? I can hear them sucking air but if I lift the front of the sac a little more water drains out. Are all drain and fill pumps in the rear of the sac? Should I run at 1500 rpm with the wake plate at 0 to try and get my bow up and drain the last few pounds?

  5. #355
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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaGuy View Post
    I played around with ballast fill times to make sure my tanks were in fact full when the timers turned the pumps off. I've reset them back to a few seconds longer than factory (6:30 rears and 10:30 bow, vs 6 and 10). I think when I increased the times to fill the drain times also increased. Now that I've set them back to close to factory specs, I think the drain times stayed at the higher settings. Are the fill and drain times supposed to match?
    Also, any tips on getting the last of the water out of the tanks before I go for a ski? I can hear them sucking air but if I lift the front of the sac a little more water drains out. Are all drain and fill pumps in the rear of the sac? Should I run at 1500 rpm with the wake plate at 0 to try and get my bow up and drain the last few pounds?
    The fill and drain times are independent and can be adjusted how ever you like. From the factory, we make the drain timers 30 seconds longer than fill. So, if you changed fill from 6 to 6:30, then I recommend you change the drain to about 7. BUT, if you constantly fill while running and drain while sitting still, then you may want to adjust drain to 1 minute longer, maybe more.

    As to draining, yes all drain ports are in the rear of the bag. It is best to drain while running at a higher pitch to force the water down to the back of the bag. You should also check your hose routing and hose orientation. Sometimes if you have picked up the bag, it will twist the fittings into an upward facing position. If the fitting is pointing up, then the bag can only drain to the inlet of the fitting. You may need to twist the fitting to get it as low as possible.

    Truth is you will never be able to get every drop out of the bag. But if you get the bag fittings correct and drain while running and drain until they suck air, then that is about the best you can do.
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  6. #356
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    Quote Originally Posted by larry_arizona View Post
    Your SL should have factory presets for wakeboard beginner and advanced as well as wake surf presets, demo boat would not erase these, but they may have saved some custom rider profiles.


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    I think you can tune the factory presets though so I’m wondering if there is a way for me to double check what those true factory numbers should be? Or if there is just a way to restore original factory settings so I can be sure it’s not been played with?

  7. #357
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    If you go to ballast timer screen there should be an option to restore factory presets.
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  8. #358
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    Quote Originally Posted by z28ke View Post
    If you go to ballast timer screen there should be an option to restore factory presets.
    So that only lets you select full or empty on the tanks. I’d like to reset the profiles back to factory settings.

  9. #359
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    Trying to figure out autowake. Seems to work fine on port side. I surf goofy. This morning i tried to use autowake, have been just filling manually. Auto wake filled my port ballast to 100%, starboard-or surf side- to 0. Yes 0. Had significant list of course to port. What the heck? Only had 4 in boat total. Had setting to stbd side surf, 5% roll yet roll was to port. Tried moving all riders to port and then stbd. Baffled. If I fill manually its perfect, fill to 100 surf side, 80 off and center. Help.

  10. #360
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    Make sure it wasn't set -5% for starboard auto wake. What year is the boat, if it's a 17 and hasn't had new software installed ,there were some glitches like that in the original version
    Quote Originally Posted by TracySMojo View Post
    Trying to figure out autowake. Seems to work fine on port side. I surf goofy. This morning i tried to use autowake, have been just filling manually. Auto wake filled my port ballast to 100%, starboard-or surf side- to 0. Yes 0. Had significant list of course to port. What the heck? Only had 4 in boat total. Had setting to stbd side surf, 5% roll yet roll was to port. Tried moving all riders to port and then stbd. Baffled. If I fill manually its perfect, fill to 100 surf side, 80 off and center. Help.
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