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  1. #441
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    Quote Originally Posted by moombahighrider View Post
    I have the Enzo sacs in my 2017 mojo pro and they near fill the rear lockers. I’m really happy with them. There is a touch of room on top for a few life jackets when full.
    Having said that, I am finding that I now don’t have enough wait in the front. I am adding 500lbs of lead in the bow this summer to see how that ‘shapes’ out...
    '08 Mobius LSV- SOLD!
    2017 Mojo Pro

  2. #442
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    Sorry if I missed this in the 45+ pages. but what the procedure to re calibrate autowake?

    My boat (19 MAX ) was "Tinkered" with by my salesman without me present. (In an effort to help) However, I don't feel I am getting the best wake from a 22' boat. Can I surf it? yes, but the "Pocket" seems small, and it is nothing to write home about compared to my neighbors beater supreme v232. I also just rode a Centurion FI 21. I wont bore you, but that stock boat throws a friggin TSUNAMI out the back. Hence there is room for improvement with my Max because it not that much better than my '15 LSV was.

    NOTE: I have around 800lbs per side in Midship lockers.

    Cheat Sheet: I had a Supra owner show me a cheat sheet put out by Supra on what the settings should be with different amounts a people ect. Does Moomba have something Similar?

    Rant: IMHO Moomba has A LOT of opportunity for improvement here in regards to Teaching us how to use Autowake. I want to use my boat. I DO NOT want a 45 page research project on the subject. It seems there is a lot show casing in regards to sales, but little in way to usage per boat model.
    2019 MAX
    2015 Mobius LSV Surf Edition (SOLD)
    2001 Supra Sunsport SSV- SOLD
    2017 Ram 2500 Crew Cummins 6.7L

  3. #443
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    WA
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    Quote Originally Posted by flienlow View Post
    Sorry if I missed this in the 45+ pages. but what the procedure to re calibrate autowake?

    My boat (19 MAX ) was "Tinkered" with by my salesman without me present. (In an effort to help) However, I don't feel I am getting the best wake from a 22' boat. Can I surf it? yes, but the "Pocket" seems small, and it is nothing to write home about compared to my neighbors beater supreme v232. I also just rode a Centurion FI 21. I wont bore you, but that stock boat throws a friggin TSUNAMI out the back. Hence there is room for improvement with my Max because it not that much better than my '15 LSV was.

    NOTE: I have around 800lbs per side in Midship lockers.

    Cheat Sheet: I had a Supra owner show me a cheat sheet put out by Supra on what the settings should be with different amounts a people ect. Does Moomba have something Similar?

    Rant: IMHO Moomba has A LOT of opportunity for improvement here in regards to Teaching us how to use Autowake. I want to use my boat. I DO NOT want a 45 page research project on the subject. It seems there is a lot show casing in regards to sales, but little in way to usage per boat model.
    I'd go on the FB page. But most folks will tell you to read this entire thread. Once you do youll understand auto wake. But if you want just numbers go to the FB page and search Max auto wake.
    2019 - Makai took delivery
    2018 Yamaha AR195 SOLD

  4. #444
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    Goose,

    Did you ever compile all your hints and tips into a single document that you would be willing to share with the forum (and public)? I've been reading through this forum for 2 years now and learning something new each time that has made it better, but it would be nice to have it all in a single doc to share with the wife.

    Thanks,
    heath
    2017 Moomba Craz Surf Edition
    High altitude prop
    1140 lb WakeMakers Universal Fit rear ballast upgrade
    Autowake 2.0 firmware upgrade (20171121 version)
    2013 SeaDoo GTI135SE with ski mode
    1984 SeaRay 210 CC - traded

  5. #445
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    Quote Originally Posted by goose View Post
    Mattsask,

    What I used to do before AutoLaunch was leave the surf system down. Not sure if everyone knows this, but if you leave the flow plates down, they automatically come up at 15mph. It is not quite the same as AutoLaunch, but there were times when it got me on plane whereas with no flow plate help, I couldn't get on plane. Unfortunately in 2016 there was no way to deploy both plates at same time, but this should help.
    When you say leave the surf system down, you're referring to having the surf switch to the left or right correct? Therefore keeping just one flow plate down till reaching 15 mph. Or is there a way to have both flow plates down at the same time other than using autolaunch?
    17' Craz

  6. #446
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    As far as I know you cannot get all 3 plates to deploy on launch unless you have Autowake, and have it on in the wakeboard mode (ie Autowake On with no surf side selected).


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    2017 Moomba Craz

  7. #447
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stazi View Post
    As far as I know you cannot get all 3 plates to deploy on launch unless you have Autowake, and have it on in the wakeboard mode (ie Autowake On with no surf side selected).


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    Was thinking the same. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything when he said leave the surf system down...
    17' Craz

  8. #448
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    Hey guys! and girls! Sorry about being away for a while. We just started building the new 2020 product and since I am in product development, I have been a little busy...

    Anyways, I have been trying to keep up with the posts and questions when I can. I am very happy to see that a LOT of you are now understanding AutoWake a LOT better and I really appreciate you guys filling in on answering the questions while I have been away. One of the suggestions has been to combine my "tips of the day" into one document. I have done that, but I am having issues getting it uploaded. It keeps telling me I wrote too much. hahaha. I have someone working on that to make it "web" friendly and hopefully soon I will be uploading a "printable" version that has all the tips in one spot. It will not have all the other information in this thread, but if you just read it from beginning to end, it should give you most of the information to get you headed in the right direction. I have reread most of it and I think there are plenty of "tips" to how you can test and learn and if you do this on a boat just a few times, it should really accelerate the learning curve. I will also work on additional content and I know the sales and marketing team are also working but honestly the best way to learn AutoWake is to use it. I can write hundreds of pages of text, but really you just have to get seat time to figure out how to use it properly. Again, I think if you read each tip one at a time and do what it says to in that tip, then after just a few times on the water, you will see what it is trying to do.

    I know I have said this many times and you will see it over and over in the tips, but if you think AutoWake is a magic wand that will just work perfectly all the time without fail and create massive wakes, then you are starting with the wrong set of expectations. AutoWake is NOT a surf system, it is NOT a ballast system, it can not make the wave bigger or smaller. Instead of thinking of it as a "bolt on performance" device, think of it as a Automated Dash Interface. The reason we are developing AutoWake is to make your experience on the water better, easier, and more technologically advanced so that it matches our brand logo of "NO WORRIES". As with any dash interface or electrical system, while we are trying to make it easy to use, it DOES require some knowledge and understanding. I am confident that there is NOT a more technologically advanced towboat on the market. You might think that is a bold statement, but if you look up our patents and the technology that we are using, it will prove that my statement is true. No one else measures, senses, or controls the systems on the boat like we do. No one can react to what the boat is doing like we do. I am not saying this to brag, but rather to explain that AutoWake IS a very complicated system. Because of that, it is not something that should be expected to be super simple to understand. There are probably some pilots or other similarly trained people on this forum. I am NOT one. But what we are doing with AutoWake is pretty similar to what you might find on an aircraft, or drone, or something similar. While I am sure that the pilots would feel comfortable sitting in a cockpit and turning on Auto Pilot, I can only assume that before they do that, they understand exactly what the system is doing and how it works in case something goes wrong. If you read the tips, that is basically what I am recommending as well. Learn what the system is doing manually. Move the plates, move the ballast, move passengers and when you do that, look at AutoWake and see how that affects pitch, roll, and displacement. Once you do that, then start using AutoWake and watch what it does. If you do that, then quickly you will understand what it is trying to do and THAT should solve most of the issues or frustration or really misunderstandings that we see related to AutoWake. Ok, let me see if I can get this thing uploaded.....
    Matt Brown
    Product Development Manager

  9. #449
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    It appears while I was writing the long post above, they already had this link done....hahaha

    So, without further ado, this should be a link to all the tips in one spot.....

    https://drive.google.com/open?id=15Y...Rij2qDsWrAYBr9
    Matt Brown
    Product Development Manager

  10. #450

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    Thank you Goose...now lets here about that new Moomba model and the details on the redesigned SA
    2018 Supra SL550 with 850lbs of lead wake
    2017 Supra SA400 (Sold)
    2016 Moomba Mojo Surf Edition (Sold)
    2017 Ford F250 Super Duty (Sold)
    2019 Ford F250 Super Duty (Sold)
    2021 GMC Denali 2500
    Soulcraft Vodoo
    Soulcraft Jordi Pro
    Soulcraft Super AV
    Phase Five Matrix

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