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  1. #11
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    Will try that tomorrow. Forgot to mention We have a 400# far sack on the rear bench .

  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattsask View Post
    I would start with running your wakeplate all the way up. If your intention was to use the wakeplate to make the wave longer, I would do that as a last resort. Instead, try increasing bow weight and speed in order to stretch the wave and make it firmer. Your overall ballast is quite low, so I would try to increase that as much as possible. I run between 11 -12.5 mph, but I have twice the ballast you do, so my suggestion might not necessarily work for you. Verify speed next outing

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    We tried a few setups on the weekend with some successes. Had rear 900's full and Center/front all the way full. Put people in front and back corners to try and get pitch and roll. Tried with and without autowake

    At end of day I'm going to upgrade rears to 1140's and then have a couple bags, one for front under bow filler and one for under rear seat (or on top of seat) for surf side. If we have friends out we can leave additional bags at home

    Experimented with wake plate from 100% down to all the way up. Surf tab was usually 70% for goofy side surfing. Overall need boat low in water for longer wave we will try wake plate all the way up and get boat low on water for longer wave. Generally close to 11mph but will adjust speed to try and lengthen wave.

    We also have different board coming. Dealer sold us Diamond CL by Phase 5 which is a nice board but single fin and not very thick board. Son uses a 54" and I'm on 57". Getting better on it but it seems slippery.

    Without bodies or extra bags to help achieve necessary pitch and roll auto wake will dump ballast to achieve set points. Down side of that is less ballasts in boat and therefore less displacement, therefore shorter and steeper wave (imo)

    Thanks for advice so far.


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    I have a 2017 Surf Max with the stock 900 rears, 700 in floor hard tank, and 500 ibs.

    I fill everything full. Full like the cupholders pop out of the front and I burp the air out of the rear bags and keep filing until they overflow out the side thruhulls. I run the wakeplate all the way up, and the surf tabs at the factory setting, which I believe is 85% on the starboard side and 65% on the port side. It's always just my wife, son, and I in the boat, so not much human ballast at all. If you can't surf that wave, then it's a technique thing, not a boat thing. It's a steeper wave than a longer wave, but I can still ride well back from the platform. My son (albeit, he's only 9 and weighs 65 pounds) can ride at least 12-15 feet back.

    I don't use the AutoWake. I like to transfer side to side when surfing, and the system can't keep up with the filling and draining. Better to just run everything full and just have the driver flip the switch back and forth. Fun!!!

    One thing for sure though is you need deep water. One lake we frequent has some areas where it drops to 8-12 feet deep in places, and wave crumbles.

  4. #14
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    Don't use Autowake. For port side surfing (natural foot) set the starboard tab to 45% wakeplate to 25% and speed at 11.2. We also have another 400on floor up against rear bench, and additional 750 on surf side seat. For starboard side surf (goofy) use same setting except surf tab at 65% and switch 750 bag to starboard side.


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    Screenshot_20170901-213354.jpg

    Anyone know what it takes to get this wave out of the Craz?
    Jeremy

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwl019 View Post
    Screenshot_20170901-213354.jpg

    Anyone know what it takes to get this wave out of the Craz?
    Ya, 4500-5000 lbs of ballast. Likely Enzo bags in the rear plus an additional 4-500 lbs in the nose.

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    2016 Craz.
    Enzo bags.

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    Meant to attach these pics to my last post. That's a 16 craz with a wave of the same calibre as the pic you posted. That's 4600# of ballast and 4 passengers.

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    Enzo bags.

  8. #18
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    With the enzo sacs, is the 400 enough or 450 needed at sea level?
    Jeremy

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    2010 Malibu VLX - Sold
    2001 Malibu VLX - Sold
    1999 Malibu VLX - Sold
    2001 Malibu LXi - Sold
    1997 Malibu LX - Sold
    1994 Mastercraft PS205 - Sold
    1985 Mastercraft Stars and Stripes - wish I still had

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwl019 View Post
    With the enzo sacs, is the 400 enough or 450 needed at sea level?
    400 is more than enough at sea level. Just make sure you're running a 15x13 prop. 15x12.5 would be even better. I run the oj 945 and surf all day long at 5.1 gph or less, with that setup. Rpm's are 3400-3600 depending on crew size and conditions.

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    Enzo bags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattsask View Post
    400 is more than enough at sea level. Just make sure you're running a 15x13 prop. 15x12.5 would be even better. I run the oj 945 and surf all day long at 5.1 gph or less, with that setup. Rpm's are 3400-3600 depending on crew size and conditions.

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    Same for me. OJ 945 and 400 Raptor. Great combo


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