Winterization for newer Raptor motors

[larry_arizona]

Not as critical with a low lift cam (cams in a raptor) applications, but I am not a fan of low ZDDP oils with the Dexos1 rated oils.

Mobil 1 is fine I am sure and likely a step up from the indmar semi syn, but if you are going to pick a Mobil 1 5w30, I would pick a non Dexos 1 variant.

I also wouldn’t go crazy with the ZDDP levels as too much is unfriendly to the cats.


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[Stazi]

The ZDDP I was talking about is in the SAE 50 gear oil. No problem with cats... or dogs for that matter.


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[larry_arizona]

The ZDDP I was talking about is in the SAE 50 gear oil. No problem with cats... or dogs for that matter.


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My understanding was ZDDP produces too much phosphorus for the catalytic converters to handle.




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[Stazi]

My understanding was ZDDP produces too much phosphorus for the catalytic converters to handle.




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Agreed. But the SAE 50 oil i am talking is ONLY being used in the trans gears, so it is not an issue.


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[BigOrange]

I just had same problem of finding the synthetic 50 weight trans oil anywhere locally. Best thing I could find online was 1 gallon of Lucas oil product via Amazon.

[larry_arizona]

Agreed. But the SAE 50 oil i am talking is ONLY being used in the trans gears, so it is not an issue.


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I follow you, but was simply saying not all Mobil 1 5w30’s are the same.

If I were choosing a Mobil 5w30 for the raptors, I would choose the non dexos1 versions.

Dexos1 M1 has been too low on ZDDP the past several years.

I would like it to be between 850 and 1100 ppm and Dexos1 M1 has been running 600-750ppm.

I wouldn’t go too much higher than 1100ppm ZDDP for concern on the catalytic converters.

EDIT: according to the 2018 product chart, the Dexos1 5w30’s have improved, previous years were much lower.

But as you can see, all M1 5w30’s are not the same.

https://mobiloil.com/~/media/amer/us...pecs-guide.pdf

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[KnoxMojo]

I run exactly what the manual says, Motocraft 5w30 semi.

[Kxmoomba]

I guess I didn't get the same manual because it doesn't list any info for oil's or qty's. I sure do appreciate this forum and all the help.

[KnoxMojo]

I guess I didn't get the same manual because it doesn't list any info for oil's or qty's. I sure do appreciate this forum and all the help.

Go to the Indmar site and look it up. You can also download a boat user manual from the Moomba archives site under support. Between the both of them, all of the info is there.

[jph3]

Quick question. I’ve drained all the low water points... is it necessary to run the antifreeze, or just extra precaution? I live in Colorado, it’s not in a heated garage.

Thanks for the info on this thread... so far it was a 10 min job