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  1. #1
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    Default Sell me or not. 2013 LSV for...

    Well the time has come or will be gone. Thinking about buying a new boat for space and new surf technology and now is the time to buy as 2017s are rolling out and good deals are out for 2016.

    I have looked at Supreme s226/s238 67k/73k
    Tige r22 73k
    Craz 67k
    Mojo 71k


    I currently owned since new 2013 LSV with added manual flow. Currently owe like 16k on her.

    238,r22,Craz, mojo in pics.





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    1100lb upgrades in each rear locker!
    Stock 500 Bow ballast
    650IBS
    Manual Flow equipped

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    CWB AMG Carbon
    Phase 5 Razz
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    4.6 Ronix Koal Fish
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    I have to be honest that I was never a huge fan of the Supreme. I didn't like the feel of the interior and I didn't feel as spacious to me. We were between the tige r20 and craz when we made our purchase and just felt we got a lot more from the moomba than we did from the tige buck for buck. Had the r22 been out at the time at that price I feel like it may have been a harder decision as it was a 2006 tige 22v we were trading in and still very much liked that boat. We just wanted an update. Does the tige have the convexvx option? From what I understand that is a must if you can do it.

    Of all those, and truthfully not being bias, I really love the color in that craz! I have never seen the blue against the green like that and am really into it. Did you get out and demo them? On this forum you're gonna get way more pushing you towards the moomba obviously as they should but I do think the mojo and craz are superior to the 2 you put them against. My .02

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  3. #3
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    Mojo or tige, the craz color scheme is fugly
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  4. #4
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    I was in this exact situation in April when I bought my craz. Was shopping the same models, except the craz was NOT on my short list. Let's be honest, at this calibre, you're really splitting hairs in terms of surf wake performance. The supreme and r22 will surf slightly better, but wakeboard wake will be all wash at slower speeds, which was a concern for us with a youngster. Craz wakeboard wake is super clean at beginner speeds.

    If surfing is your only interest, I would go with 238 or r22. Depending on my usual crew size. The 238 is a HUGE boat.

    I went with the craz over the mojo because the cockpit is only 8" shorter and it fits my normal crew size. Plus I knew the mojo would need quite a bit more weight to surf as well as the craz.

    At the end of the day it came down to the r22 and craz. The craz felt bigger inside, had the 400 vs the 360 in the tige, and we just couldn't get over that one dinky little touch screen to run the whole boat. The craz seemed to have way more value for our money.

    The color of that craz is not my cup of tea though! What motor is in the tige?


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  5. #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtatexc View Post
    I have to be honest that I was never a huge fan of the Supreme. I didn't like the feel of the interior and I didn't feel as spacious to me. We were between the tige r20 and craz when we made our purchase and just felt we got a lot more from the moomba than we did from the tige buck for buck. Had the r22 been out at the time at that price I feel like it may have been a harder decision as it was a 2006 tige 22v we were trading in and still very much liked that boat. We just wanted an update. Does the tige have the convexvx option? From what I understand that is a must if you can do it.

    Of all those, and truthfully not being bias, I really love the color in that craz! I have never seen the blue against the green like that and am really into it. Did you get out and demo them? On this forum you're gonna get way more pushing you towards the moomba obviously as they should but I do think the mojo and craz are superior to the 2 you put them against. My .02

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    Tige has convex yes. I have demoed the Craz and he brought 3 extra fat sacks and I was not impressed to be honest. I have seen the other two in action but not the Mojo. I have just heard many members on here complain about having to throw a ton of weight to make a good surf. Surf is 90% of the boat function.

    Quote Originally Posted by jmvotto View Post
    Mojo or tige, the craz color scheme is fugly
    Lol some may think that. But as a die hard Seahawk fan, this goes nicely with the rest of my lifestyle and of course I love all those colors.

    Quote Originally Posted by mattsask View Post
    I was in this exact situation in April when I bought my craz. Was shopping the same models, except the craz was NOT on my short list. Let's be honest, at this calibre, you're really splitting hairs in terms of surf wake performance. The supreme and r22 will surf slightly better, but wakeboard wake will be all wash at slower speeds, which was a concern for us with a youngster. Craz wakeboard wake is super clean at beginner speeds.

    If surfing is your only interest, I would go with 238 or r22. Depending on my usual crew size. The 238 is a HUGE boat.

    I went with the craz over the mojo because the cockpit is only 8" shorter and it fits my normal crew size. Plus I knew the mojo would need quite a bit more weight to surf as well as the craz.

    At the end of the day it came down to the r22 and craz. The craz felt bigger inside, had the 400 vs the 360 in the tige, and we just couldn't get over that one dinky little touch screen to run the whole boat. The craz seemed to have way more value for our money.

    The color of that craz is not my cup of tea though! What motor is in the tige?


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    Motor is the 360 hp. I am going to demo that one soon and see how it feels compared to Raptor motor. Obviously my little 330 Indmar is behind on all these choices. Although my LSV is decked out now and I love the wave, just figured it's time to upgrade and think of a boat I plan on keeping for a decade.



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    2013 LSV Red/White

    1100lb upgrades in each rear locker!
    Stock 500 Bow ballast
    650IBS
    Manual Flow equipped

    Boards
    Hyperlite Hi-Fi "The Illest"
    CWB AMG Carbon
    Phase 5 Razz
    Byerly Volt
    4.6 Ronix Koal Fish
    Phase Five Scamp (kiddos)

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    I've found it takes about 4200 lbs of ballast in my craz for the surf wave to make me happy. I think the tige with the 360 raptor might be a headache for resale a decade down the road.

    I think you mean taps 3 on the tige, the convex vx still requires listing.

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    Default Sell me or not. 2013 LSV for...

    Info on Tige.


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    2013 LSV Red/White

    1100lb upgrades in each rear locker!
    Stock 500 Bow ballast
    650IBS
    Manual Flow equipped

    Boards
    Hyperlite Hi-Fi "The Illest"
    CWB AMG Carbon
    Phase 5 Razz
    Byerly Volt
    4.6 Ronix Koal Fish
    Phase Five Scamp (kiddos)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattsask View Post
    I've found it takes about 4200 lbs of ballast in my craz for the surf wave to make me happy. I think the tige with the 360 raptor might be a headache for resale a decade down the road.

    I think you mean taps 3 on the tige, the convex vx still requires listing.

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    You have any good surf wave pics? Yeah that's a ton of weight (4200). Did you have to upgrade your prop to pull that kind of weight?


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    2013 LSV Red/White

    1100lb upgrades in each rear locker!
    Stock 500 Bow ballast
    650IBS
    Manual Flow equipped

    Boards
    Hyperlite Hi-Fi "The Illest"
    CWB AMG Carbon
    Phase 5 Razz
    Byerly Volt
    4.6 Ronix Koal Fish
    Phase Five Scamp (kiddos)

  9. #9
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    Default Sell me or not. 2013 LSV for...

    I've got the oj 945 on my boat. I'll try to snap you some pics this weekend.

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  10. #10
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    If your looking at Tige then you need to look at the correct boat, that boat would be the Z3 but the Z1 is the same one but shorter. R22 is not the top of the line surf boat in their line up.
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