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    Default Surf Boat for $40k

    Wanted to get your thoughts on this, basically, you go to the boat show and look at all the boats, one would be lucky to get a surf boat for under $60k. Thinking back to the Moomba Boomerang, fabulous ski boat, but that was about it, bare bones boat that skied really well and was cheap.

    Is it possible to build a bare bones surf boat and sell it for under $40k? thinking along the lines of the Boomerang but 20+ years later. Is there a market for this or is it the used market?
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    Those days are gone.
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    I think there could be a market for something like that. They are TRYING to do that with the Wake Tractor v-drive. But the radical funky layout isn't going to do it for most.

    But there's kind of a 'bare minimum' that I think is needed for the typical wake boat.

    So I'd think if someone did it, it'd look like this:
    • 21 Foot Hull
    • 325 Engine
    • Acme 537 prop
    • Factory rear 1100's or 900's
    • Factory 1180 under a playpen
    • Analogue Gauges
    • Perfect pass wakeboard pro (or equivalent)
    • Basic flip up bolster seat
    • basic tower with a pair of wakeboard racks


    I guess I'm picturing something equivalent to a 2008 LSV but with a playpen bow so you can have a factory gravity bag. But maybe it just can't be done for that price anymore?

    I mean, the Moombas start at $60k realistically. And the MC NXT starts at $50k not including a trailer and the trailer is $3600.
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    Yea ... I'd call a Moomba pretty stripped down. Mojo base is 63k I think.

    If you can move all the boats you can manufacture at 60k+ ... why tighten your margins. I don't see 20k worth of costs that could be stripped from a Moomba and still have a functional boat.

    I understand the sentiment from the consumer standpoint but unfortunately easy financing and longer terms have increased prices on all these types of items. A Cadillac Escalade is a 100k vehicle ... wth???
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    Wake Tractor? I had never heard of that thing. Wow. That is REALLY ugly.

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    someone could, but won't. the market has dictated that people will pay 60k+ to get an entry level surfboat.
    I believe that someone like bayliner could if they wanted to.
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    I suppose if someone really wanted to strip things down to a basic level to create a surf monster for cheap, it'd have to be more like this:

    • 20 to 21' deeper v-hull (more like a Tige or a Centurion).
    • Big rear lockers with 1100's and throw over the side Tsunami pumps.
    • Basic walkthrough bow with a big walkway sack that fills with the over the side tsunami pump. (or even a closed bow!)
    • No PP
    • No Tower
    • Basic surf platform
    • Basic driver's seat (no flip up bolster)
    • factory installed ghetto gate or Velcro side wedge
    • No stereo
    • Basic 5.7L V8
    • Propped for surfing
    • rear bench seat in front of the v-drive
    • Single solid cover over the engine and both storage lockers
    • Hydroturf covering the sundeck/engine cover
    • No flooring except textured finished fiberglass
    • Cheap $15 clamp on the windshield mirror
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaneboats View Post
    Wake Tractor? I had never heard of that thing. Wow. That is REALLY ugly.

    http://www.austinboats.com/pre_owned...sp?veh=4510106
    I saw one in person. I believe the term you're looking for is FUGLY!!!

    It's basically a v-drive version of something like a sea-doo sportster! WTF?!!?!?
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    1992 Supra Sunsport. **SOLD** 2k pounds ballast, Surf System, Blue LED's everywhere, decent audio system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandm View Post
    someone could, but won't. the market has dictated that people will pay 60k+ to get an entry level surfboat.
    I believe that someone like bayliner could if they wanted to.
    Also, when you can buy a nice used boat that's 5 years old or newer for $35 to $40 that's decently outfitted, then why care about the price of new. Browse through only inboards and look at what you can get for $30k to $40k that's less than 5 years old and there's some decent boats out there. A22's, OBV, LSV's, XLV's, Tige R20... Lots of late model boats that would make a person happy for $40k and under.
    2008 Moomba Mobius XLV. Monster Cargo Bimini, WS Rev 410's, Polk Cabins, 3 Infinity Subs, PPI amps, WS420, Exile BT, upgraded ballast pumps, up to 3,500+ pounds of ballast, Blue LED's...
    1992 Supra Sunsport. **SOLD** 2k pounds ballast, Surf System, Blue LED's everywhere, decent audio system.
    Tow Rig: 2013 F150 Ecoboost FX4 (wife's rig) Other money pits include:1998 BMW M3 Cabriolet, 2009 Audic A6 Avant 3.0T, 2005 Kawasaki ZX-6R 636.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaneboats View Post
    Those days are gone.
    That's my thought, those days you could get a Bayliner for $8k and now they're over $20k.

    MC NXT22 was priced out at $76k here in UT for boat show pricing. what's the point of a 50k boat optioned out to 76k? I thought the comparable Craz, Supreme and MB 22's were nicer.
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