Well found out what my problem was on why I could not get ropeless. My digital speed on the boat is 2mph OFF!!!!In order to go 10.4 I have to set the cruise to 8.4 .. as soon as we found out the problem we instantly had 3 people riding ropeless including my 6'3 300 pound friend on a CWB Ride... Made a huge difference.. anyone reading this that is having trouble. GPS your speed! Digital is NOT a surefire way of knowing and made all the difference!!!!