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  1. #11
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    Not being a serious BASS Hound, i have the Kicker sealed box with the 10 Sub . It compliments the sound of the rest of my system nicely. My stereo is not HUGE and has no tower speakers at all , just to put into perspective. But for the most common time of running music while resting or between ski sets , it is a NICE sounding system, i've had many compliments.

    If you want to go big this is Not the way to go but something to think about as an option.
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmandley View Post
    Exile doesn't deal with the boxes anylonger. I think the last of the left over boxes are gone.
    Why Mike? Problems or just not selling enough of them?

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  3. #13
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    The reason is that the designs we made where built to fit like a glove. Once in production we found to many examples of boats being slightly off specification which created fitment problems. We could have dropped down to a 10" size like many offer, but we just don't like the idea of putting a 10" woofer in the helm when the benefits of a 12" are so great. In the end, we opted to leave this part of the installation with the custom fabricator and focus in other areas. -Brian@Exile

  4. #14
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    Go here:
    http://www.hifisoundconnection.com/S...0046/set_num/2

    I bought a box that was already coated with bedliner and that's what's in my Supra. Relatively inexpensive for what you're getting.

    I have this one for a 10" at $68 with free shipping.
    http://www.hifisoundconnection.com/S...id/0/SFV/30046

    2008 Moomba Mobius XLV. Monster Cargo Bimini, WS Rev 410's, Polk Cabins, 3 Infinity Subs, PPI amps, WS420, Exile BT, upgraded ballast pumps, up to 3,500+ pounds of ballast, Blue LED's...
    1992 Supra Sunsport. **SOLD** 2k pounds ballast, Surf System, Blue LED's everywhere, decent audio system.
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  5. #15
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    I have a Boston Acoustics 10" sub in an Audioformz sealed fiberglass enclosure.... I love it.. Unfortunately, looking at their website, it doesn't look like they make it anymore, but here's what mine looks like:

    http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/m...5921/54550.jpg
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  6. #16
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    What would be my advantage at this point to swap to a different box, my box is still intact, no soft spots or anything--just moved it out of the way a couple weeks back so I checked it out.

    next question, my box is sealed, would the ported version's be better ?
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  7. #17

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    Quote Originally Posted by moombadaze View Post
    What would be my advantage at this point to swap to a different box, my box is still intact, no soft spots or anything--just moved it out of the way a couple weeks back so I checked it out.

    next question, my box is sealed, would the ported version's be better ?
    Remove a woofer mounting screw from the box. Carefully, and in a centered manner, press in on the woofer cone. Then return the screw. Push on the woofer again. If you do not feel a difference in the resistance then the sealed enclosure is not airtight. Not being airtight compromises the bass but also effects the woofer's longevity.

    Ported versus sealed? First, you want a correctly tuned ported box for a particular woofer. An off-the-shelf universal enclosure is not optimized for any given woofer. In fact, most of these enclosures are tuned at a higher frequency for more peak output (a more obvious attribute), but you lose power handling, lose deeper bass, and lose sound quality (kind of like a one note wonder). But even in the poorest version it definitely hits louder and longer.
    A good bass-reflex (tuned port) sub system will give you an appreciable increase in output. The enclosure will be larger by 40% or more, sometimes much more. And if done correctly will not sound ported. In fact, the SQ can be very good.

  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Analog View Post
    Remove a woofer mounting screw from the box. Carefully, and in a centered manner, press in on the woofer cone. Then return the screw. Push on the woofer again. If you do not feel a difference in the resistance then the sealed enclosure is not airtight. Not being airtight compromises the bass but also effects the woofer's longevity.

    Ported versus sealed? First, you want a correctly tuned ported box for a particular woofer. An off-the-shelf universal enclosure is not optimized for any given woofer. In fact, most of these enclosures are tuned at a higher frequency for more peak output (a more obvious attribute), but you lose power handling, lose deeper bass, and lose sound quality (kind of like a one note wonder). But even in the poorest version it definitely hits louder and longer.
    A good bass-reflex (tuned port) sub system will give you an appreciable increase in output. The enclosure will be larger by 40% or more, sometimes much more. And if done correctly will not sound ported. In fact, the SQ can be very good.
    ok, that makes sense.

    Can you point me in the direction for a tuned port box for my 12" Exile sub that wont break the bank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moombadaze View Post
    ok, that makes sense.

    Can you point me in the direction for a tuned port box for my 12" Exile sub that wont break the bank.
    Many operations that sell a particular brand of woofer will also build custom enclosures to suit. And that begins with properly fitting the boat. ? Because it does you little good if the box is too large or you must give up more leg room than you are willing to.
    Every woofer has a set of specs called Thiele/Small Parameters in the manual. From those specs you design the correct ported enclosure (which is really a tuned resonator). The question is whether or not it is actually "tuned" with any degree of precision (as discussed above). And you as the end user, can have some input on how it performs. For instance, you could say I want maximum bass output....period. Or, you could say I want more output than sealed but I also want a defined tight sounding bass similar to sealed. And the designer, aided by the right computer and software, would input your preferences. Then he would model that box to see if it fits your particular boat. If all goes well then he builds you the box. Since it is hard to do this without the boat you should really find a local shop that specializes in cabinet construction whether car or boat. It's certainly easy enough to marinize an enclosure for a boat application.
    Odin with Earmark Marine has a well defined sequence to handle all this for his customers. They (the do-it-yourselfer) are required to get involved, make some measurements and verify a few things so that the final enclosure build will fit. He's been doing this for a very long time and has a good process. And it is a more difficult process to manage for an enclosure that has to be shipped. But in the end it is right and sounds great.
    In your case, since you already own the woofer, and because it's not a cookie cutter build, you should find a local guy that can access your boat.

  10. #20
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    How about the JL Audio subwoofer that they claim doesn't require an enclosure? It's a little pricey but could be an easy solution if they are worth a darn.
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