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    Default OBV surf ballast

    Quote Originally Posted by NateHaskovec View Post
    My advice is to upgrade the ballast before you even buy a board. Your stock wave will frustrate you. If you add an 1100 on your surf side v-drive locker, add about 250-400 under your surf side seats, and add an IBS or 400 or more #s to the bow, you will surf ropeless on day one with just about any board you can buy.
    I don't mean to hijack this thread, but I have a question about ballast set up for my OBV. We tried wakesurfing for the first time with the stock set up and I was less than impressed. Would this advice on additional ballast apply to my OBV as well? Or are there other recommendations that you could direct me to?
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    moved it so you didn't highjack and/or have info buried in the other thread.

    How else did you have the boat set up? Speed, wakeplate, people?

    Sure an upgrade to your ballast will help (750 in surf side full, center full, and IBS/weight in the bow if you want to) but here is an good, old thread from when we first starting surfing:

    https://forum.moomba.com/showthread....highlight=tips

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    buy a 750 for the rear locker and I put and ibs in the bow of our obv and it surfed pretty well,

    also add friends to the surf side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfeman131 View Post
    moved it so you didn't highjack and/or have info buried in the other thread.

    How else did you have the boat set up? Speed, wakeplate, people?

    Sure an upgrade to your ballast will help (750 in surf side full, center full, and IBS/weight in the bow if you want to) but here is an good, old thread from when we first starting surfing:

    https://forum.moomba.com/showthread....highlight=tips
    My son didn't have much issue (6' - 140lbs.) and could probably go ropeless with some more practice, but my big arse (6'2" 230 lbs.) really struggled. It seemed that there was no real "definition" to my wave and was just all washed out.

    Here's the basic setup I had:
    - center locker full
    - surf side rear full
    - opposite surf side rear - 50% full
    - wakeplate about 3/4 down (up just seemed to let the wave wash out)
    - speed around 9.5-10mph
    - one teenager in bow
    - my wife and one other teenager in stern on surf side

    Aside from adding more ballast or friends/teenagers, should I go ahead and fill the opposite of surf side full? Or maybe leave it empty?

    Thanks for the help....
    Mike

    2013 Outback V
    - ballast: 900# rears / 400# center / 650# IBS
    - audio: Exile SXT9Q x 2 towers / Kicker KM65 x 6 cabins / Xi 12 sub / Javelin & XM15.4 amps / ZLD
    - FAE
    - DIY suckgate

    2003 SeaRay 182 -- gone but not forgotten...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikenehrkorn View Post
    My son didn't have much issue (6' - 140lbs.) and could probably go ropeless with some more practice, but my big arse (6'2" 230 lbs.) really struggled. It seemed that there was no real "definition" to my wave and was just all washed out.

    Here's the basic setup I had:
    - center locker full
    - surf side rear full
    - opposite surf side rear - 50% full
    - wakeplate about 3/4 down (up just seemed to let the wave wash out)
    - speed around 9.5-10mph
    - one teenager in bow
    - my wife and one other teenager in stern on surf side

    Aside from adding more ballast or friends/teenagers, should I go ahead and fill the opposite of surf side full? Or maybe leave it empty?

    Thanks for the help....
    on your model boat, you need to have the opposite side empty. everything else you have is about right. play around with different speed & wakeplate settings.

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    Add the port bag to the surf locker to. Simulate. A 750 If you have a pump.

    I assume you have the 400 in the rear lockers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmvotto View Post
    Add the port bag to the surf locker to. Simulate. A 750 If you have a pump.

    I assume you have the 400 in the rear lockers.
    good point. I thought he may have added a 750 from a post in another thread, but might be wrong about that. And, I re-read your post and wakeplate needs to be 3/4 UP, not down.

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    Thanks for all the tips, I will try those suggestions.
    Mike

    2013 Outback V
    - ballast: 900# rears / 400# center / 650# IBS
    - audio: Exile SXT9Q x 2 towers / Kicker KM65 x 6 cabins / Xi 12 sub / Javelin & XM15.4 amps / ZLD
    - FAE
    - DIY suckgate

    2003 SeaRay 182 -- gone but not forgotten...

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    Default OBV surf ballast

    I was looking at the fat sac 750 and its quite a bit longer (50" vs 36") than the length of the rear locker -- does it mold pretty well to the locker size or would that really put too much pressure on the sides when near full? Or maybe i should be looking at a different sac with different dimensions?
    Mike

    2013 Outback V
    - ballast: 900# rears / 400# center / 650# IBS
    - audio: Exile SXT9Q x 2 towers / Kicker KM65 x 6 cabins / Xi 12 sub / Javelin & XM15.4 amps / ZLD
    - FAE
    - DIY suckgate

    2003 SeaRay 182 -- gone but not forgotten...

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    Default Re: OBV surf ballast

    Think I have the same hull, I run IBS 650, center 400?, rear port side 750, 400 under the port seat and now we add a 300ish near the port seats.. 10 mph, and the wake plate 3/4 up to start then down until the wave looks nice. You should get everyone seated, then drop your first surfer in the water to check the wave without their weight...

    Just get the 750 from WakeMAKERS, it'll mold to the space..



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