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07-19-2013, 10:05 AM #1
Question - 2010 OBV ballast setup for surfing...
I got questions, and I know this place has answers...
(My 2010 OBV has the Gravity I ballast system for starters.)
This photo from the "Moomba" flicker page shows a 2013 Outback V with a wave that looks like what I need. I assume that the 2013 is virtually unchanged from my 2010, not considering the tower and a few cosmetics. If this was a factory photo shoot, then I am hoping someone has info.
Can someone tell me EXACTLY how this boat was set-up in this photo?
Stock Gravity III?
~M.2010 Outback V
07-19-2013, 12:54 PM #2
You wont find any place that gives you factory set up when they do photos.
Moomba Mondo, look at the surf pics, its sunk almost to the rub rail for the surfing pics yet the boat only comes with 650 rear, and 500 hard tank. NO WAY is that boat running stock. Its most likly running a 1500 rear, 500 hard tank and a 650 bow but thats what they do for photo shoots.
Just like you see all these pro riders in the photo shoots, the boats arent factory set up making those waves most of the time.
In my Mojo i run 3K and the Moomba is under water, but my rub rail is still out, and NO WAY can you have people pilled in on the Non surf side of the Goofy wave and it be clean...
OK sorry back to topic,
I would have to lean pretty heavily to setting your boat up this way, if you really want a hard core Regular surf wave.
hard tank full
Possible to run 300lbs in the goofy side to keep the rear of the boat a lettle deeper but level in the water.
07-19-2013, 01:30 PM #3
Understood. No where near factory. Should have guessed.
But I must qualify, I am looking for a good clean wave, not necessarily "hard core".
I am also guessing adding a "factory style" 400lb bag to each rear locker won't get me anything good?
(2013 OBV's have a hard tank?)
Then what I have read here from most newer OBV owners is to start here:
Center ski locker factory 400 bag full. (Gravity I.)
750 bag full on surfside.
Empty locker opposite.
Should I even buy a bag for the opposite locker?
To further complicate things... I ride goofy, on a Ronix Duke (the shorter one.) I'm 6'-0" at about 210lbs.
Mainly just trying to determine what bags to buy for the rear lockers. (Got the pump as a gift.)
Not interested in dunking the nose with an IBS.
Any just want to surf.
Last edited by aquavette; 07-19-2013 at 01:37 PM.2010 Outback V
07-19-2013, 05:05 PM #4
If you really just want a good clean wave a 750 will get you there with the factory up front.
I am not positive but I'm pretty sure all new Moomba's have gone to the 500 hard tank up front.
I dont think any Moomba line has the Hard Tank rears, technically only the Supra SA has a hard tank rears, but Supra is moving to hard tank rear in time. These tanks are only 200lbs so its not a lot..
Honestly if your buying Bags, buy 1100, its only a few bucks more then the 750s and the extra weight never hurts.
I would also buy 2 just so that when you get friends out and they want to surf on reg you can accomidate them.
Another idea for surfing if you dont want to do a IBS is pick up a used 400 bag off the classified section for 75 bucks and use it up front when you want to surf. 400 up front wont dunk your nose.
Yes your speed is good to start with, you might try 10.5-10.8 if your not running as much nose weight, this will flaten and lengthen the wave a bit. With a 750-1100 in the rear corner you will have a big tall short wave, also lower the wake plate as much as you can with the wave still clean, this will lengthen the pocket a lot too.
I unfortunatly have to make Reg and Goofy work because im reg and Claudia is goofy LOL
07-19-2013, 05:30 PM #5
Fill my stock center 400lb. bag.
Throw a full 750lb. in the starboard side rear locker.
Start at 10.5 to 10.8 mph using a small amount of wake plate to extend the wave.
Should I put any weight at all in the port side rear locker?
(I have to measure to see if a 750 will even fit in the rear of an OBV.)
Likely to be a driver only, but if I have passengers, where should I start with them? Port or starboard side?
Last edited by aquavette; 07-19-2013 at 05:32 PM.2010 Outback V
07-19-2013, 07:48 PM #6
You can add weight or people to the port side if you have too but normally you wont want to do that.
Watch this little clip i made, its behind my Mojo but the principles are the same.
Im talking about speed and your wave, but this will be the exact same thing you see if you have too much weight on your Port side when surfing as well.
Last edited by mmandley; 07-19-2013 at 07:50 PM.
07-19-2013, 09:26 PM #7
My 2010 OBV came stock with the Gravity I also. I got rid of the scooper, strainer, and sprinkler valve. I then upgraded from GI to GIII with a minor twist. Here is the link to my mod:
To help with the priming issues of the aerater pumps, which I believe you have, I also did this:
I personally think the 1100's are too big for the OBV. They will push up the rear hatches, and I think folded parts of the bags will get stuck. I went with the 750's. The fittings almost touch the underside of the rear hatches. Here is the starboard side completely full:
Here is what the boat looks like when both sides are completely full:
And my new switches for the bags:
Good luck. Hope some of this helps.Joe
2010 Outback V - Sold
07-19-2013, 11:55 PM #8
Thanks mmandley the video was cool!
And thanks jstenger your setup looks awesome, but probably more than I need!
All good information.
I will likely order (1) 750lb fly high bag, and the 150lb fly high brick.
Since I rarely have passengers, the 150 can be moved forward, or shifted around as needed maybe?
Gotta get that order in now...
Still curious to see what setups other 2009+ OBV's are using if anyone else wants to chime in.
Thanks again.2010 Outback V
07-20-2013, 12:22 PM #9
There was a guy on here who traded up from his 750 to an 1100 in a 2009 OBV. He went back to the 750. IT was easier to just fill the 750 all the way. With your boat I'd be surprised if there's more than 50 lbs difference between the two. You fill up front and run the 750 and try just under 10 MPH with the wakeplate mostly up and you'll find a nice clean surf wave. In fact, I like that guy's surf wave better than the XLV one that wasn't quite set up right which I surfed the same day. The OBV wave was better set just the way I described.My Mom said I'm not allowed to get wet!
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07-20-2013, 04:10 PM #10
don't think a 1100 will fill past about 750lbs just due to the size of the locker ,Ed's 750 filled it completely full. you may want to measure the size of the compartment and order based off that, and don't be afraid to add a ibs either.Hey, Its Moomba time
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