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  1. #1
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    Default Ballast pump advice?

    Hey guys, I'm looking for your experiences on replacing factory GIII ballast pumps for faster fill times. I'm running 1100s front and rear for surfing, and it takes freaking FOREVER to fill the rears and esp. to switch sides which we do multiple times a day. Also my sprinkler valves are sucky and cause airlock issues practically every time out. I've ripped out my manifold and valves, I can't take it anymore.

    I've read MANY threads on hear and wakeworld, but there's no clear winner option. So, the options I'm considering are:

    1. Keep the big RULE aerator fill pump and drain pump for the front bag. Replace the fill & drains for just the rear bags with
    a. Tsunami 800, keep 3/4" hoses, add vented loops
    b. Tsunami 1200, keep 3/4" hoses or upgrade to 1", add vented loops
    2. Replace the big RULE fill and drain, also do everything else in #1
    3. Keep the big RULE aerator fill pump and drain pump for the front bag. Install Johnson reversible for the rear bags
    4. Install Johnson reversible for all 3 bags
    5. Do #1, and install a Johnson reversible JUST as a transfer pump between the rear bags, effectively doubling the "swap sides" speed.

    None of the options are really that cheap when you add up all the component costs, so the diff isn't worth worrying about.

    Thoughts? Opinions?
    2008 Mobius XLV | 325HP | Acme 1235| lots of ballast!

  2. #2
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    Default Ballast pump advice?

    #4 and add the XLink

    or

    Leave the goofy riders at the dock

  3. #3
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    Default Ballast pump advice?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfeman131 View Post
    #4 and add the XLink

    or

    Leave the goofy riders at the dock
    While I agree with Wolfe, I did #1b with 1" lines on the 1200 pumps plumbed to 1100 rear bags last season and have been happy. I have the rule 2000 filling the center then the ibs. The next step is the x link for the transfer speed, but that will wait till next season (buying another house and need to be money-wise).
    Last edited by moombahighrider; 06-06-2013 at 10:03 PM.
    '08 Mobius LSV- SOLD!
    2017 Mojo Pro

  4. #4
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    [QUOTE=wolfeman131;218116

    Leave the goofy riders at the dock[/QUOTE]


    My vote.......
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    Joe V
    2012 Möbius XLV~ Loaded & Exiled
    2007 Outback V ~ sold

  5. #5
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    Default Ballast pump advice?

    #4, has worked great for me.
    Kurt
    2019 Supra SL 550
    2016 Mojo - Sold
    2006 Mobius LSV -Sold

  6. #6
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    Default Re: Ballast pump advice?

    I did #2. Got rid of the stock Rule pump, strainer, and valve. Added 3 new Tsunami 800 pumps with inline check valves. Cut off the stock scupper and added 2 more 3/4" thru hull intakes. Check out my Outback V GI to GIII upgade thread. I went this route because 2 Tsunami pumps (fill and drain) with fittings and a check valve was about $200 cheaper than a reversible pump. I think I saved about $600 going this route.

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    Last edited by jstenger; 06-06-2013 at 10:51 PM.
    Joe

    2014 LSV
    2010 Outback V - Sold
    1993 Echelon

  7. #7

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    As a goofy rider, I vote #4 with 1" lines, add an IBS and connect it to your center sack. That's what I did and it has made a huge difference in the fun factor.
    DDNorCal
    2019 Supra 450 SL, 1,000 lb lead and 3145 prop
    Sold - 2006 LSV 3430 Ballast, 1847 Prop, all around great boat

  8. #8
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    The Rule pump is called a 2000 but it's really a 1200 GPH pump just like the Tsunami 1200. It works great for filling one bag-- very fast. I kept mine to fill the front bag and my underseat surf side bag. I modified the manifold. I put in a second 3/4" thru hull and put a different Rule pump on my surf bag with a check valve. Later, I also added a second fill line with a Tsunami 1200 and a check valve. Now I can fill to surf in under 5 min. Kepts costs way down. I leave goofy riders at the dock though.
    My Mom said I'm not allowed to get wet!
    2008 LSV (sold)
    2000 Outback LS (sold)
    LLTR!!!!!!!!



  9. #9
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    Put it this way I am in the process of ripping out all my 1200 Tsunami's because of priming issues ect. I was sick of fighting with 6 pumps. I haven't had a chance to hit the water with the Johnson's but I can't wait.
    -Mark
    14 Mojo - 72 hours and growing
    02 Mobius LSV ---- Sold and always will be remembered as the one that started it all.

    "Hey you only live once"

  10. #10
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    Well, to be sure, if you are going to spend some coin go reversibles with the X link.
    My Mom said I'm not allowed to get wet!
    2008 LSV (sold)
    2000 Outback LS (sold)
    LLTR!!!!!!!!



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