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Thread: Kicker Amp Clipping
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04-28-2011, 03:35 PM #11
I am going to bet that you have dead batteries. A charger is going to put out on average only around 10A. You can easily pull 10x that with your stereo, and a battery charger will not keep up. Let it charge a while and try again tomorrow.
In the meantime, listen to what David has to say, (Earmark) about battery and system power mwiring. He has forgotten more than I will ever know about wiring battery systems and he has some good advice about the PROPER way to wire a dual battery system in a boat and connect a stereo to it. You may want to consider moving your battery loads around based on his advice.
Phil
KickerLast edited by philwsailz; 04-28-2011 at 03:37 PM.
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04-28-2011, 03:37 PM #12
David,
No, I bought the Sub and Amps from a "Licensed E-seller" and my installer is a Kicker Dealer.
He has checked the voltage when it clips and its a constant 12V
I do have the dual switch but he ran both the power and ground to the battery itself.
When the system "Clips" it turns off and then you turn the volume down or adjust the gain and it may come back on.
Yes the problem is only the 5 channel
The installer is still troubleshooting the setup now. I had to go back to work. I assume he is going through the tests that you are suggesting.
The 700.2 was run with 4 Gauge. He ran the 450.2 with 8 gauge. I am not having any problem out of the 450.SOLD! 2011 Mobius LSV 325HP EFI
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04-28-2011, 03:38 PM #13
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04-28-2011, 03:44 PM #14
That is what I thought as well. I am going to have that replaced.
SOLD! 2011 Mobius LSV 325HP EFI
Digital Cruise Pro, Wakeplate, Kenwood KM550U and KCA-RC107MR x2, Kicker ZXM700.5, Kicker 6.5 Cabins, 10'' Kicker CompVT sub, Wetsounds SYN 4, Wetsounds REV10s, Wetsounds WS420Q, Gravity VI Surf Ballast, Acme 537
Board: '12 LF Harley (Monster) 139
Her Board: '11 Ronix Krush 128
Kids Board: '13 Ronix Vision 120
Skate: LF Faction 44
Surf: LF Custom Quad & XXX
Tow Rig:
2011 Toyota Tundra CrewMax TRD Magnetic Grey
3/1 Truxx Lift, and some other stuff...
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04-28-2011, 04:18 PM #15SOLD! 2011 Mobius LSV 325HP EFI
Digital Cruise Pro, Wakeplate, Kenwood KM550U and KCA-RC107MR x2, Kicker ZXM700.5, Kicker 6.5 Cabins, 10'' Kicker CompVT sub, Wetsounds SYN 4, Wetsounds REV10s, Wetsounds WS420Q, Gravity VI Surf Ballast, Acme 537
Board: '12 LF Harley (Monster) 139
Her Board: '11 Ronix Krush 128
Kids Board: '13 Ronix Vision 120
Skate: LF Faction 44
Surf: LF Custom Quad & XXX
Tow Rig:
2011 Toyota Tundra CrewMax TRD Magnetic Grey
3/1 Truxx Lift, and some other stuff...
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04-28-2011, 04:19 PM #16
ANNNNND...now my installer calls me back and says everything is working fine again. He's going to keep it again over night and see if it happens again and if so find what the problem is. This is CRAZY!
SOLD! 2011 Mobius LSV 325HP EFI
Digital Cruise Pro, Wakeplate, Kenwood KM550U and KCA-RC107MR x2, Kicker ZXM700.5, Kicker 6.5 Cabins, 10'' Kicker CompVT sub, Wetsounds SYN 4, Wetsounds REV10s, Wetsounds WS420Q, Gravity VI Surf Ballast, Acme 537
Board: '12 LF Harley (Monster) 139
Her Board: '11 Ronix Krush 128
Kids Board: '13 Ronix Vision 120
Skate: LF Faction 44
Surf: LF Custom Quad & XXX
Tow Rig:
2011 Toyota Tundra CrewMax TRD Magnetic Grey
3/1 Truxx Lift, and some other stuff...
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04-28-2011, 04:27 PM #17
Maybe the battery is a little more charged up now....
Know an amp uses voltage and current to make power. You can measure 12 volts at the battery but have it so dead that it cannot provide the current to keep the amp going. I can put 8 D cell batteries end to end and measure 12 volts but there is no way it is going to run the amp... Not enough current....
You say he is measuring a constant 12 volts; you should know you can do that with a dead bettery on a charger. A dead battery on a charger will not run the amp; the charger will not put out enough current. However if with the stereo playing you go and measure the voltage right at the amp, when a loud parts comes up and the amp goes dead the voltage will tell a very different story. If you have the system playing intermittently and you put your volt meter probes on the pwer terminals of the amplifier, I bet you will see if sucking down to 10 volts or so...
That is my hunch at this point... Charge that thing up some more...
Phil
KickerLast edited by philwsailz; 04-28-2011 at 04:29 PM.
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04-28-2011, 05:51 PM #18
I did some reading\research and came across this thread:
https://forum.moomba.com/showthread.php?t=14456
After reading it and gathering what I think is the proper setup for wiring my amps to the Perko Switch I have instructed my installer to Wire the amps directly to the common post of the Perko switch instead of directly to battery number 1 and nothing else going to the batteries other than the #1 and #2 posts. Is this correct? If it's on the common post as stated in the link above how will it know which battery to run the stereo on if I switch it to number 2. Does the common post pull from whatever battery is selected? I think Mike (mmandley) suggested putting them on the 2nd post. Which is the corect way? Shouldn't one be for the stereo and one be for cranking the engine. Thinking that makes me think it should be on the battery # 2 post.Last edited by E4NASH; 04-28-2011 at 05:53 PM.
SOLD! 2011 Mobius LSV 325HP EFI
Digital Cruise Pro, Wakeplate, Kenwood KM550U and KCA-RC107MR x2, Kicker ZXM700.5, Kicker 6.5 Cabins, 10'' Kicker CompVT sub, Wetsounds SYN 4, Wetsounds REV10s, Wetsounds WS420Q, Gravity VI Surf Ballast, Acme 537
Board: '12 LF Harley (Monster) 139
Her Board: '11 Ronix Krush 128
Kids Board: '13 Ronix Vision 120
Skate: LF Faction 44
Surf: LF Custom Quad & XXX
Tow Rig:
2011 Toyota Tundra CrewMax TRD Magnetic Grey
3/1 Truxx Lift, and some other stuff...
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04-28-2011, 06:27 PM #19Senior Member
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The best explaination for prope battery switch wiring kinda goes like this. Compare it to a sink faucet with a hot and cold control. The water that comes out is your load, ie stereo, starter. If you turn on Hot or 1, the water coming out the faucet is just from that battery servicing the load. if you turn on cold or 2 that battery services the load. If you turn them both on then you are using battery 1 and 2.
So, if you park the boat and leave the stereo on batt 1, that battery will be run down when you leave, lets just go with its dead. So you cant start the boat, so switch to battery battery 2 and start the boat. Or vice versa
Did that help??REALLY????
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04-28-2011, 06:40 PM #20
Ok, I got that part but which post on the Perko should the amps be connected to....1, 2, or common? Do I just pick one and let that be that??
SOLD! 2011 Mobius LSV 325HP EFI
Digital Cruise Pro, Wakeplate, Kenwood KM550U and KCA-RC107MR x2, Kicker ZXM700.5, Kicker 6.5 Cabins, 10'' Kicker CompVT sub, Wetsounds SYN 4, Wetsounds REV10s, Wetsounds WS420Q, Gravity VI Surf Ballast, Acme 537
Board: '12 LF Harley (Monster) 139
Her Board: '11 Ronix Krush 128
Kids Board: '13 Ronix Vision 120
Skate: LF Faction 44
Surf: LF Custom Quad & XXX
Tow Rig:
2011 Toyota Tundra CrewMax TRD Magnetic Grey
3/1 Truxx Lift, and some other stuff...