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  1. #11
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    deafgoose,
    That sub and facade, because the box was wedge shaped and conformed to the hump, only consumed a few inches of depth which is easily gauged by where the facade intersects along the side. There is plenty of space to the outside of the enclosure to flush in a vent through the facade or lots of open space over the facade to mount a vent. The enclosure did not penetrate over the hump or into the helm cavity behind the hump so there is zero enfringement on the space that would be utilized by the heater. There was no modification to the hump in any way.
    While I'm not a fan of cutting into the hump it will work to give you more depth and displacement out front for a box that will require a little less depth relating to leg/foot space. If you try cutting the sub into the hump and using it in a free-air fashion, and you end up disappointed, then its a minor revision
    to cut it out larger for an enclosure or simply cover it up with an enclosure.
    On another note and not necessarily applied to your situation, we have a very compact and new bandpass enclosure that has 6dB more output (yes, four times the output) over a sealed enclosure. The best part is we are getting a linear response over a full octave with the highpass and lowpass minus 3dB down points a full octave and a half apart. This is a major departure from the typical bandpass and the output is greater than just about anything.

    David
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    Quote Originally Posted by deafgoose View Post
    That looks great but I refuse to loose any foot room.
    That was my ultimate decision to go the route I did. Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EarmarkMarine View Post
    deafgoose,
    That sub and facade, because the box was wedge shaped and conformed to the hump, only consumed a few inches of depth which is easily gauged by where the facade intersects along the side. There is plenty of space to the outside of the enclosure to flush in a vent through the facade or lots of open space over the facade to mount a vent. The enclosure did not penetrate over the hump or into the helm cavity behind the hump so there is zero enfringement on the space that would be utilized by the heater. There was no modification to the hump in any way.
    While I'm not a fan of cutting into the hump it will work to give you more depth and displacement out front for a box that will require a little less depth relating to leg/foot space. If you try cutting the sub into the hump and using it in a free-air fashion, and you end up disappointed, then its a minor revision
    to cut it out larger for an enclosure or simply cover it up with an enclosure.
    On another note and not necessarily applied to your situation, we have a very compact and new bandpass enclosure that has 6dB more output (yes, four times the output) over a sealed enclosure. The best part is we are getting a linear response over a full octave with the highpass and lowpass minus 3dB down points a full octave and a half apart. This is a major departure from the typical bandpass and the output is greater than just about anything.

    David
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    Sweet. If you could post pics of what you are describing, that would be GREAT!
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    Viking already posted the link above in this thread. There are no pictures available to show the details behind the facade.
    The bandpass is a rectangular enclosure that doesn't lend itself to an angled or wedge-shaped enclosure. Given that it would definitely consume leg room its really not applicable to your situation. But it can be installed so that it rides up on the hump a bit and allows your feet to fit underneath. Actually we have several designs for JL Audio W6 series woofers including the 10, 12, and
    13-inch. And they are surprisingly compact. Absolute sound pressure machines!

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    goose, if your not interested in loosing that much foot room, then mounting in that plate should work fine. The kicker is rated for free air. as well but sealed enclosures are more efficient.

    http://www.crutchfield.com/p_20606KM...10.html?tp=972

    really depends on how much bass you want, mine really rounds out the sound and hits the lows well, is it competition, no, but it is competing with engine noise and wind noise as well. i can hear it loud and clear in the boat. better yet, i use thefootwell for beach bags ect since the OBV are slim on storage.

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    Technically there is not a speaker that is good for both a small sealed box and an infinite baffle (free air) despite the assertions of this or that manufacturer. If it has middle of the road parameters then it does nothing very well. This woofer is better suited for a box. Is it still used in free-air? Yes. We have done it when budget dictated. The power handling is compromised and the midbass will be very soft. As long as you don't get carried away with the power and expectations you will be fine.

    David
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