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09-10-2010, 10:39 PM #1
Upgraded Orbit valves to Irritrol 700 **Results**
There has been lots of talk on the forum about the Irritrol 700 Series valves being a good replacement to the OEM Orbit valves. They have a much better strait through design witch should cut down on the ballast fill times significantly. I purchased 3 new valves from Sprinkler Warehouse and decided to put them to the test.
I have the stock Gravity III ballast system with Rule 2000 pump. I used a stop watch to see how long it would take to fill all 3 bags. Before I started, I made sure there was no water or air in all 3 ballast bags.
Center: 13:24
Left: 15:24
Right: 16:09
Total fill time: 16min 9sec
I also timed each bag individually.
Center: 7:01
Left: 7.17
Right: 7:54
After installing the new valves I filled all 3 bags to see how much faster the fill time would improve. I was SHOCKED by the results!!!!
Center: 13.28
Left: 14.31
Right: 16:11
Total fill time: 16min 11sec
So there is zero improvement from the upgrade. I didn't bother timing each individual bag on the new valves.2008 Outback V - gravity III ballasts, perfect pass star gazer, hydraulic wake plate, depth finder, water stainer, rad-a-cage tower, board racks, tower mirror, bimini top, audio package d, graphics package e, appearance package, cockpit & tonneau cover, mooring cover, black stainless rubrail, docking lights, OJ 14.25x14.0 prop.
Toys: Ronix Viva 136 with Kai bindings, Phase5 Drew Danielo Pro, Straight Line Sumo Sac 750lb, 450lb, 125lb ballast.
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09-10-2010, 10:44 PM #2
great info. I hope you can return the new irritol valves, there are kind of pricey. i think.
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Joe V
2012 Möbius XLV~ Loaded & Exiled
2007 Outback V ~ sold
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09-10-2010, 10:49 PM #3
Last edited by deafgoose; 09-11-2010 at 01:12 AM.
2008 Outback V - gravity III ballasts, perfect pass star gazer, hydraulic wake plate, depth finder, water stainer, rad-a-cage tower, board racks, tower mirror, bimini top, audio package d, graphics package e, appearance package, cockpit & tonneau cover, mooring cover, black stainless rubrail, docking lights, OJ 14.25x14.0 prop.
Toys: Ronix Viva 136 with Kai bindings, Phase5 Drew Danielo Pro, Straight Line Sumo Sac 750lb, 450lb, 125lb ballast.
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09-11-2010, 01:01 AM #4
plus it'll solve any auto-fill issues (air and water) - or so I've heard!
2007 Moomba Outback - going, going, GONE
2015 "NOT A MOOMBA"
Why Not? Play Hard! Get wet
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09-11-2010, 01:27 AM #5
Yeah! The build quality is much higher and even though the fill times did not decrease, they are more efficient.
The valves are not the bottle neck in the system. I personally think the Rule 2000 is the bottle neck.
I really like the idea of upgrading my ballast fill pump but the Rule 3800 is 1.5" and the stock intake and manifold is only 1". We need to find a pump that is 1" and that is also capable of flowing 2X more water so that we don't have to upgrade the intake, shut-off valve and manifold.Last edited by deafgoose; 09-11-2010 at 01:51 AM.
2008 Outback V - gravity III ballasts, perfect pass star gazer, hydraulic wake plate, depth finder, water stainer, rad-a-cage tower, board racks, tower mirror, bimini top, audio package d, graphics package e, appearance package, cockpit & tonneau cover, mooring cover, black stainless rubrail, docking lights, OJ 14.25x14.0 prop.
Toys: Ronix Viva 136 with Kai bindings, Phase5 Drew Danielo Pro, Straight Line Sumo Sac 750lb, 450lb, 125lb ballast.
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09-11-2010, 07:26 AM #6
DG, some on here with the existing 3/4 valves and plumbing have just added another fill pump and an extra manifold from the other end to increase times. otherwise doing bringing twice the water from the same place but feeding it to the other end of the manifolds Or 1.5 to 1" on the whole system makes sense.
A Day at the Lake...Priceless
A Day in Powder...Endless
Joe V
2012 Möbius XLV~ Loaded & Exiled
2007 Outback V ~ sold
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09-11-2010, 08:44 AM #7
I added a second Rule pump and built a 1" manifold out of pvc pipe so I could have water inlets at each end. I'm pretty satisfied with my system. I usually only fill the front bag for wakeboarding-- we're not that good. I leave the front full and fill the surf side 750 for surfing. It has the Irritrol valve on it and fills in about 7 min.
My Mom said I'm not allowed to get wet!
2008 LSV (sold)
2000 Outback LS (sold)
LLTR!!!!!!!!
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09-11-2010, 08:45 AM #8
I wish you would go ahead and time your bags filling individually. That will tell you if you are just not getting enough water. Sending all you have to one bag should show you reduced times-- at least in theory.
My Mom said I'm not allowed to get wet!
2008 LSV (sold)
2000 Outback LS (sold)
LLTR!!!!!!!!
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09-11-2010, 10:30 AM #9
dg,
Thanks for doing the timed tests. Sorry that it did not deliver the results u were looking for.
I do agree with Kane though that u should time how long it takes to fill just one bag. It may be that it's less restrictive at higher pressures.
AlAl
2006 Mobius LSV
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09-11-2010, 10:37 AM #10
dg,
Thanks for doing the timed tests. Sorry that it did not deliver the results u were looking for.
I do agree with Kane though that u should time how long it takes to fill just one bag. It may be that it's less restrictive at higher pressures.
AlAl
2006 Mobius LSV