2010 Moomba Outback Questions

[lxirod]

Hello, new poster here. Not to offend anyone, but my hope was to purchase the new SN200 OB. However, since there are not any for sale in California right now, cant bring in an out of state due to CA emmission requirements, and can't afford the price of a brand new one, I am considering other boats. A near by dealer has a 2010 Outback. Any thought on wake, tracking and so on. Are there any differences or improvemnts from prevoius years?? I will mainly be using as a slalom course boat, but will also use it to take the family out on public lakes. Hence the need for the open bow.

Thanks for any info.

[viking]

I have an 07 DD and came from a 1990 Supra Comp TS6M (argueably one of the best slalom boats around). My outback wake holds it's own and has a comparable wake to the older Supra.

I went with the new boat due to open bow as well as I have 3 kids. If the course was my only concern - I'd have stayed with the Supra Comp.

My .02.

[ian ashton]

I have an '08 DD Outback. I think the only design change from my boat to the 2010 is that the tower is now standard, and they changed the drivers seat. I have around 250 hours on mine, and have yet to have any big issues, I love my boat!

That said, I test drove a 2010 SN200, and the wake was absolutely non-existant, but at almost twice the cost when optioned out I would hope so!

I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Outback, great value, great boat!

[deerfield]

lxirod - I echo the above from viking and ian ashton. I am a skier and own a '07 Outback. My sons wakeboard. Previous boat was a Nautique. Open bow is nice upgrade from closed bow. - Deerfield

[maxpower220]

When you look at the Outback, you have to compare apples to apples. The Outback is 20.5' long. This compares well in length to the SN 206 and a foot longer than a 196. The Outback is 4 inches wider than a 206. That said, the Outback has a very similar wake to the 206 at any speed above 30-32. Under 30 mph, the 206 will be slightly smaller. If you ski at 34 or 36 mph, the wake is similar.

The other aspect, which I like, is that the Outback has a lot more room inside than either of the Nautique ski boats. It is very nice when you have several people on the boat. Also, you can wakeboard and surf behind an Outback with a little extra ballast and a few people in the boat.

I sold my previous MC, could not find a used 197 or CC 206 even close to the new Outback that I ordered from the factory. I invite you to ask your comparo question on CCfan, mcteamtalk, and planetnautique. You will have a lot a bad remarks about Moomba period. Almost everyone who will make those remarks have had zero or less experience with Moomba OR they looked at Moomba in the 90s. Sorry, but the early days of Moomba produced a lot of JUNK.

Is the Outback the best slalom boat? No not by a long shot. Is it the best wake for the money given it's size? Yes. As always, go on a test ride and ski behind one.

[lxirod]

Thanks for the info so far guys. In Jan I had to sell my 08 cc196 for financial reasons, but now I am ready for a new boat. However the 196 was very limited for other disciplnes. So I really prefer an open bow now. The Sn200 seems like a great boat, but brand new i was quoted 68,000!!! Can't afford that! I will test driving it next week.

[Mikey]

I'd say give one a test drive,and you see if theres actually 18,20 k difference in wake etc. I have a Malibu and MC owner friends who both agree for the money ya can't beat Moomba.
Neither one is snobby and are always willing to ski my boat as well,

[lxirod]

California - California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger recently approved a new emissions-based registration law for recreational boats.
The law, which goes into effect July 1, 2008, applies to buyers or retail sellers of new boats equipped with up to a 500-hp gasoline powered sterndrive or inboard engine. Under the legislation, A.B. 695, buyers or sellers must provide the California Division of Motor Vehicles with documentation that the engine meets the appropriate emission requirements.

Engines larger than 500-hp will be required to comply starting Jan. 1, 2009.

“The NMMA worked closely with the Southern California Marine Association to lobby for passage of this new law,” said Thom Dammrich, president of the National Marine Manufacturers Association, in a statement. “This demonstrates a commitment by businesses and boaters to promote clean emission technology that will offer substantial air quality benefits to boaters and the public at large.”

The new law is designed to prevent Californians from buying a recreational boat outside the state with a non-compliant engine to circumvent the new emissions requirement. It is similar to the state’s vehicle registration requirements.

The law has specific requirements for submitting initial applications to the California DMV. The DMV form will be revised to include instructions for the boat dealer and purchaser to check off certain boxes to self-certify that the engine is in compliance with California emission requirements.

“The retail seller and/or purchaser will be required to submit the engine emission hang tag with the application,” said John McKnight, NMMA’s director of safety and environmental compliance, in a statement. “These hang tags are required by California law to be on new engines at the time of sale.”

The law excludes vessels originally purchased in another state by a resident of that state who moves to California and can provide satisfactory evidence of previously having an out-of-state residence. The penalties for non-compliance under the new law are the same as the penalties for operating an unregistered vessel, which are set at a $250 fine.

[kaneboats]

Chip off the ole block, ain't he?

[lxirod]

PCM still produces non CAT motors and most if not all CC200 ordered outside of CA were ordered that way to save money.