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  1. #21
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    you don't need a new manifold, but most of these are custom manifolds that have larger diameters to handle increase waterflows from the larger pump(s). If your fill lines are 3/4" and your supply line is 3/4 Manifold, vs a 1" or 1 1/8 or 1 1/4" manifold supply your fill times for multiple bag fill will be significantly increased. its just basic fluid flow dymanics...supply and demand but saying that the flow rate thru the newer valves is higher than the stock sprinler valves.......you should look at Jesse's fill time chart
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    Ah, I wasn't factoring in the bigger diameter of a new pump. I will definitely be getting the Irritrols after seeing Jesse's time chart. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something if I'm not planning on upgrading my pump also.

    Thanks for the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csm View Post
    This is probably a stupid question, but just curious as to why a new manifold is needed... I have a pre-06 LSV, so I'm not sure what your manifold looks like, but what's the advantage of this manifold over the stock one?
    My boat was at the dealer getting the GGIII system installed so I didn't have a chance to look at the manifold ahead of time. Thinking that it may be a 3/4" manifold I ordered a 1" manifold (less than $10).

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    Has anyone tried the Irritrols in a newer model boat? I would really like to see the timings before everyone swaps to these. I know they performed better than my stock valves from 2002, but I am still not sure about the newer models.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JesseC View Post
    Has anyone tried the Irritrols in a newer model boat? I would really like to see the timings before everyone swaps to these. I know they performed better than my stock valves from 2002, but I am still not sure about the newer models.
    Jesse, when I picked up my boat from the dealer last Friday I noticed the stock manifold was 1" (I didn't install the 1" poly manifold I bought) so I just swapped out one of the Orbit valves that fills one of the 750lb sacs for an Irritrol 3/4" valve. Problem is the next couple days the weather was not great so I didn't get down to the water to test. Then on Monday I took my boat to Earmark to have the stereo system installed. It won't be until next week sometime before I can do an "on water" test. I'm just going to time it filling the 750 sac until water comes out the vent/overflow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by you da man View Post
    Jesse, when I picked up my boat from the dealer last Friday I noticed the stock manifold was 1" (I didn't install the 1" poly manifold I bought) so I just swapped out one of the Orbit valves that fills one of the 750lb sacs for an Irritrol 3/4" valve. Problem is the next couple days the weather was not great so I didn't get down to the water to test. Then on Monday I took my boat to Earmark to have the stereo system installed. It won't be until next week sometime before I can do an "on water" test. I'm just going to time it filling the 750 sac until water comes out the vent/overflow.
    Ok so the stock manifold is already 1"???

    Would replacing the Rule 2000 with a Rule 3800 be doable with the stock intake and manifold?
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    Quote Originally Posted by deafgoose View Post
    Ok so the stock manifold is already 1"???

    Would replacing the Rule 2000 with a Rule 3800 be doable with the stock intake and manifold?
    here's a link.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jmvotto View Post
    Hmm.. Great info but I don't quite understand how to connect the power to a Rule 3800. Why can't I use the same power source as the original and maybe upgrade the fuse?
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    Quote Originally Posted by deafgoose View Post
    Hmm.. Great info but I don't quite understand how to connect the power to a Rule 3800. Why can't I use the same power source as the original and maybe upgrade the fuse?
    Not sure i just know the 3800 is 17amps and the 2000 is like 7 amp, you may be able to upgrade the blade fuse for the fill on line. i am not an expert there. some people just doubled the rule 2000 and seem to piggy back the power without any reported problems..
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    I wish I knew what method would fill the bags fastest.

    Two Rule 2000's or one Rule 3800.
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