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  1. #21
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    Jesse,

    Looks like you have a good idea going for what will work for your boat, maybe Skiers Choice just used a low budget valve that was poorly designed. I chose to go with the Tsunamis because I like how reliable they are and they pump a good flow rate (11-13 GPM per pump). I was able to install them close to the bottom of the boat, but it is a pretty tight fit.

    I hope your design works well for you, thats all that matters. Send some pictures when you get it installed.
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    JesseC - just as an FYI, the Simer pumps are suppose to be able to self prime with the pump up to 10ft above the water source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2007 Outback V View Post
    JesseC - just as an FYI, the Simer pumps are suppose to be able to self prime with the pump up to 10ft above the water source.
    Perfect!! You should have a good system on your hands!! What is the flow rate of those pumps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2007 Outback V View Post
    JesseC - just as an FYI, the Simer pumps are suppose to be able to self prime with the pump up to 10ft above the water source.
    Are the Simer pumps rated to be used in the engine compartment due to fumes and spark?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JesseC View Post
    Excellent!!! Go with the Tsunamis if you can fit them. Check with some of the others to see if you need to run the vented loops. With the Tsunami setup I was worried about the scupper putting too much pressure on the pumps and forcing water past the pumps and filling the bags while driving. Let me know how your fill times and how it works out for you. Where and how do you plan on getting power to the pumps?
    Yeah I allready got the 3 vented loops and ordered the hose and fittings. Only need to get the two extra switches im gonna need but I want to get the matching switches to the one I have.

    To be honest I really havent figured out yet how im running all the power since im upgrading from the gravity I. As you know Jesse I only used the one surf sac on the goofy side so im really kinda starting from scratch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fman View Post
    Jesse,

    Looks like you have a good idea going for what will work for your boat, maybe Skiers Choice just used a low budget valve that was poorly designed. I chose to go with the Tsunamis because I like how reliable they are and they pump a good flow rate (11-13 GPM per pump). I was able to install them close to the bottom of the boat, but it is a pretty tight fit.

    I hope your design works well for you, thats all that matters. Send some pictures when you get it installed.
    When I tested the new setup, I measured and cut all my hoses to their exact lenghts and hooked them up to the manifold. I then took the entire setup with every fitting on the hoses to get a true test. Just running the pumps and discharging the water will give you a false test. You must test with all the hoses and true lenghts to measure your gph/gpm. I took the setup and hooked it up to my sketchy saw horse 5 gallon bucket test setup. In my timed tests to transfer 5 gallons of water from one bucket to the other here are the results with the 3/4" and the 1"

    3/4" valves and hoses - 10 gpm or 600 gph
    1" valves and hoses - 13 gpm or 800 gph

    REMEMBER - these times were taken while going through the entires system, valves and full length hoses. This time is greatly different than just discharging from the pump(s).
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    Quote Originally Posted by byronkoz View Post
    Yeah I allready got the 3 vented loops and ordered the hose and fittings. Only need to get the two extra switches im gonna need but I want to get the matching switches to the one I have.

    To be honest I really havent figured out yet how im running all the power since im upgrading from the gravity I. As you know Jesse I only used the one surf sac on the goofy side so im really kinda starting from scratch.
    In my setup, I plan on getting fused power from the starter and going to a set of relays mounted to the back of one of the cargo areas. I did not want to get power from the solenoid wires. To me that is asking a lot of current to be passed through that circuit board or switches and I would rather use relays with a closer power source. I am going to try and do the wiring this week and will post pics of the status.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JesseC View Post
    Perfect!! You should have a good system on your hands!! What is the flow rate of those pumps?
    Max flow rate is 10 gallons per minute. I expect to see somewhere between 8-9 gal/min.

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    Quote Originally Posted by you da man View Post
    Are the Simer pumps rated to be used in the engine compartment due to fumes and spark?
    Nope that is the downfall.....NOT ignition protected. That is why I mounted them where I did. In the OBV there is very little room to mount reversible pumps in the engine compartment.

    Either way, I think the pumps should work well. They are meant to be used as utility pumps, pumping water out of a flooded basements and such. Filling ballast bags should be very little strain on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JesseC View Post
    When I tested the new setup, I measured and cut all my hoses to their exact lenghts and hooked them up to the manifold. I then took the entire setup with every fitting on the hoses to get a true test. Just running the pumps and discharging the water will give you a false test. You must test with all the hoses and true lenghts to measure your gph/gpm. I took the setup and hooked it up to my sketchy saw horse 5 gallon bucket test setup. In my timed tests to transfer 5 gallons of water from one bucket to the other here are the results with the 3/4" and the 1"

    3/4" valves and hoses - 10 gpm or 600 gph
    1" valves and hoses - 13 gpm or 800 gph

    REMEMBER - these times were taken while going through the entires system, valves and full length hoses. This time is greatly different than just discharging from the pump(s).
    That is a definite true statement, my Tsunami 800's are rated for 13.4 GPM, I think I am getting about 11 GPM to the bags when filling. Still not too bad, and much better than the stock GIII RULE pump system. The more line you run the more friction loss you will get and loose GPM's.
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