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  1. Thread: Boat Shows 2024

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    I wouldn't call it not being a repeat customer. ...

    I wouldn't call it not being a repeat customer. the market is slowing and no dealer wants to get stuck with a boat that they can't peddle easily regardless of a new purchase.
    someone else...
  2. Thread: Boat Shows 2024

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    I would have expected a price more in the 150's...

    I would have expected a price more in the 150's based on your numbers but that's still a long way off from what your expectations are.
    I believe my cousins 2023 se575 is still sitting at the dealer...
  3. Thread: Boat Shows 2024

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    as have I but the best one was the 8 guys from...

    as have I but the best one was the 8 guys from virginia that "rented" me and the boat for the day on mead. $325 ticket for one riding on the sundeck and groom lost his brand new iphone in the lake. ...
  4. Thread: Boat Shows 2024

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    be careful what you put out there :) :) it...

    be careful what you put out there :) :)

    it would be a cool experience imo to do factory tours at both. my perception is skiers spends more time on q/c-build quality and 'bu more about churning...
  5. Thread: Boat Shows 2024

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    might be your proximity to ground zero. I'd be...

    might be your proximity to ground zero. I'd be lying if I wasn't a little envious of your location being so close to skiers and 'bu. I'd love a factory tour and rick/drew would have a hard time...
  6. Thread: Boat Shows 2024

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    might have changed and might be a dealer that is...

    might have changed and might be a dealer that is trying to keep business from leaving. also might be a brand thing.
    one thing I have learned over the years are that dealers, no matter the...
  7. Thread: Boat Shows 2024

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    this. I would bet money there's still the same...

    this.
    I would bet money there's still the same margins in the boats just at a higher price. moomba's historically have not had large discounts but I'd be surprised to not see supra discounting...
  8. Thread: Boat Shows 2024

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    this is heading back to 2008-2010. lots of boats...

    this is heading back to 2008-2010. lots of boats sat on the market for a long time and several dealers in my old stomping grounds went out of business.
    I don't envy anyone in a position that HAS...
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    This!! did the last tigeowners event on mead...

    This!!

    did the last tigeowners event on mead before it moved to havasu and met some cool owners from all over the west.
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    anyone catch this in vermont. will ban...

    anyone catch this in vermont. will ban wakesurfing on 43 of the 73 inland lakes. says it's still being challenged but wonder if that's nothing more than a delay to the inevitable.
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    this does not surprise me and I still say it...

    this does not surprise me and I still say it doesn't matter if it's nwa or taylor, I believe the true issue is buying a property on a lake and having to listen to the all day long barrage of music...
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    hfarr's whole post hit the nail on the head..... ...

    hfarr's whole post hit the nail on the head..... the wakeboat communities push for bigger and louder speakers on the towers. my gut is they are going after the wakes as it's easier than trying to...
  13. you can only edit for a certain period iirc. ...

    you can only edit for a certain period iirc.

    as a florida boat, you might want to list it's use or lack of in salt or brackish waters. it would be my first question if I were shopping that max....
  14. Thread: Boat Shows 2024

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    agreed. I think this is going to be a good year...

    agreed. I think this is going to be a good year to be a buyer and an awful year to be a seller/dealer/builder IF your whip is 2021 or newer but I suspect next year will be back to a more "normal"...
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    fixed it for ya :)

    fixed it for ya :)
  16. Thread: Boat Shows 2024

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    same dealer:...

    same dealer:
    https://www.riwatersports.com/New-Inventory-2023-Moomba-Boat-Kaiyen-Rhode-Island-Water-Sports-14199134?ref=list

    that's only 9k more than the kaiyen I spec'ed out in 2020 new and...
  17. Thread: Boat Shows 2024

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    https://www.onlyinboards.com/2023-Supra-SA450-Blow...

    https://www.onlyinboards.com/2023-Supra-SA450-Blowout-rebates-available--for-sale-Burrillville-Rhode-Island-158376.aspx

    149k. new. and it's a 450. granted doesn't have all the option boxes...
  18. Thread: Boat Shows 2024

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    going to be an interesting spring for boat...

    going to be an interesting spring for boat sales...
    don't see the interest rate market changing much until at least mid summer. only inboards is packed with boats and 70% are 2021 and newer.
    m/c...
  19. Thread: Back online..

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    winter layover. :lol:

    winter layover. :lol:
  20. Thread: Boat Shows 2024

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    epic was the spinoff by toyota boats when they...

    epic was the spinoff by toyota boats when they realized they should stick to cars. I believe that they had one year back in the early 2000's where you could buy an epic and a toyota and they were...
  21. Thread: Boat Shows 2024

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    I do agree that I won't feel bad for any...

    I do agree that I won't feel bad for any dealers/builders that are hurting as almost all took piles of cash from the gov't during covid and within a few months of that handout started to see record...
  22. Thread: Boat Shows 2024

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    onlyinboards is up to almost 6k in listings(has...

    onlyinboards is up to almost 6k in listings(has to be a record high). over half are 2023/2024. something tells me there will be some deals to be had come mid-summer.
  23. Thread: Boat Shows 2024

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    rode on a sanger a while back that had a...

    rode on a sanger a while back that had a fiberglass piece over the platform to make it easier to get gear on. it was an absolute pita and almost everyone hated it. wonder how much of a pita the...
  24. Thread: Boat Shows 2024

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    believe it or not with all that goes on here in...

    believe it or not with all that goes on here in sin city, boat shows are nonexistent. skiers choice hasn't had a presence in the 6 years I've been here with one small dealer losing moomba for...
  25. Thread: boat market 2024

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    spot on imo...

    spot on imo...
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