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Read a bulletin today that with the approval of the sell of E15 fuel that several gas stations are beginning to sell it in place of the E10. According to the bulletin, this amount of ethanol can be very corrosive when left in a gas tank and not recommended in lawnmowers, weedeaters and other small engine equipment. I have not seen anything on its affect on marine equipment. Has anyone read anything on this fuel for marine use or know what Moomba's stance on using this fuel?
in return means i will never run e15 in any of my stuff haha..just sucks that its hard to find any fuel thats non ethanol in it haha..i did find a spot that did tho when i was going up to my buddys camp
I don't know that SC has, or will, put anything official out there, but I'm sure they would recommend avoiding E15.Quote:
Originally Posted by rvette
I cruised through the midwest and saw a 1/2 dozen flavors of gas at one station. You don't want to just hit any button any more. E85, E15, E20 blah blah blah.
When is Indmar going to give us a flex fuel boat engine? Lol
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I read recently that the car manufacturers are putting up a fight about E15. I can't remember which brands, might be Toyota, but some are claiming E15 will void the manufacturers warranty.
The article also said it was just stupid to use E15 in anything on the water. Ya think?!?!?
E15 will definitely have more water and therefore corrosion. I know Ilmor has specifically come out and said DO NOT run it. It's absurd they are pushing this stuff, the who ethanol thing is just STUPID.
The American Motorcyclist Association (AMA) is fighting the E15 ruling and will have a DC protest on June 19th. Ironically, it is the same day the IRS is auditing their non-exempt status...lol.
http://www.americanmotorcyclist.com/...orThought.aspx
Not good, I guess SEMA couldn't get congress to enact legislation to stop the sale of it. They were fighting the epa's appeoval of it. Of 8 engines tested by the Coordinating Research Council (CRC) 2 failed.
My advice: Don't anyone ever buy one drop of that crap for anything you own. They can approve anything they want based on the lobbying (which I am now calling bribes cuz that's what they are) money but that doesn't mean you have to buy it. Tell everyone you know that the crap will ruin your vehicles.
theres a website out there shows you what gas stations sells ethanol free fuel...
www.pure-gas.org
The Indmar owners manual for 2013 says not to use anything over E10. After my first tank from BP that had a bunch of water I only buy on the water where ethanol doesn't exist :)
i like the non eth but up here its almost 30cents more a gallon for thatQuote:
Originally Posted by ian ashton
Shoot id pay that, we have it in my little town but its 1.30 more a gallon then Reg Unleaded.Quote:
Originally Posted by motosno963
well for all i know its probably that much haha
There are no ethanol free fueling stations around our area. I am not even sure if the gas on the water is ethanol fuel but at well over a dollar more than road gas I wouldn't buy it anyways.
you check that site i posted a few spots up?Quote:
Originally Posted by rdlangston13
Yep, nothing anywhere near where I amQuote:
Originally Posted by motosno963
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damn that sucks haha..i have a few but its in the city..not really boat friendly haha
Thr problem w/ ethanol fuels is when you allow it to sit for any length of time, ie lawn mowers etc, boats while stored for winter, anything that sits for a prolonged period of time. The longer it sits the more water it pulls in, and the more the ethanol settles/seperates in he tank. So when you start the motor you get a straight shot of ethanol and water, doing serious damage do to the higher concentrations of both.
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It's an EPA ruling issue David. Because we are in counties that surround Harris County, Where Houston is, we are required to sell ethanol based gas as well. They can get exemptions at marinas, but you have to have a distributor that will deliver. Seems that most aren't interested since the market is so small.
AH HA! Leave it to Ron to know the right answer! Stinkin EPAQuote:
Originally Posted by rca
Frickin Hippies!Quote:
Originally Posted by rdlangston13
there seem to be fewer and fewer stations that sell e-free fuel and I'm sure the list will grow shorter. if e15 gets a foothold, it's going to be hard to find anything but. amazing that the gov't knows what's good for us when in the end, all ethanol is doing is driving food prices up, dropping mileage in vehicles and lining farmers pockets with green.. sure it helps save x barrels of oil a day, but so would helping eliminate the thousands of commuters daily driving miles and miles to work in a full size suv with no one else on board..
The farmers lobby is very strong and, not surprisingly, they are behind E15. The oil companies and auto manufacturers are fighting it. I expect lawsuits. Lots of money in this fight.
For once, I am lucky to live where I live. Most of the gas stations in my area (Conoco) proudly state that they have ethanol free gas. And they are usually cheaper than the other stations. Fortunately for me, I have one station within a mile of the launch and conveniently on the way there.
Here is an old post where we talked about ethanol use.
https://forum.moomba.com/showthread....ol-information
Well, it looks like the like to the PDF is missing.
Here is a link to a post on Planet Nautique with the text of the letter.
http://www.planetnautique.com/vb3/sh...s-With-Ethanol