Stereo Makeover

So i finally finished for the most part, still need to finalize my new sub box to reatain it on top of the footrest yet accomodate the needs of the Polk 10" DVC sub, the Memphis 10" sub is still rockin' it for now. I retained the four JBL Audio P693 Power Series 6X9's as they put out some serious sound! I did have to pull four new strands of 16ga to the tower for each one, not to bad though. So here's what i did, forgot to get a shot of the matching transom remote though, dang!

Polk MoMo MMC 650 6.5" interior speakers. These things are super sweet! Crystal clear sound when driven with the proper power!

Amps (uncarpeted and carpeted), Remotes and bass knob (hidden under dash).

DUH! Shoulda posted this under Mods!

Very nice. Like the finished look.

I like it Razz.

Couple questions.

What amp is running your tower? I am shopping for tower speakers and jsut cant figure out what i want.

On your 6x9s whats the little box hanging off them? Is that a cross over? Also if those are in the tower does that box go inside and does it rattle? What did you do to make it not rattle?

Did you put the Polks threw the entire interior? 6 total? What power rating is that amp?

Thanks

mmandley, I'll try and answer 'em one at a time below :p;

What amp is running your tower?
Kicker ZX650.4 / 4 channel tested to 677 watts peak obviously wired in at one 6X9 per channel

I am shopping for tower speakers and jsut cant figure out what i want.
These JBL's are loud and really handle the power

On your 6x9s whats the little box hanging off them? Is that a cross over?
Exactly

Also if those are in the tower does that box go inside and does it rattle?
No rattle at all in my Loud Liquid 'glass box

What did you do to make it not rattle?
Bought Velcro Extreme at Home Depot, velcroed the crossovers right to the speaker magnet. Doesn't move!

Did you put the Polks threw the entire interior? 6 total?
Exactly, didn't think they'd fit the bow but they did with a very slight mod

What power rating is that amp?
If you mean the interior amp, Kicker ZX700.5 / 5 channel tested to 976 watts peak. Ran the four rear cabins parallel on CH 1/2, the bow speakers on CH 3/4 and sub on the Class D channel

Nicely done!

Sweet thanks Razz im trying to do different things and im pretty fare out of sync with the stereo market. I know how to install it all but jsut dont know whats really good for my money.

I need to find a good 6x9 tower set up singles for now. Get that done this summer and then i can start looking into the other upgrades for tunes.

I am already working on trying to find a local boat place to buy parts at like the 12v power plug to replace the rear light pole plug, and then i want to get that flip over bow light like the Supra has, leds, swim deck cover, and i realy like Newty's handle around his swim deck.

Just have this cash flow problem..my mind spends it faster then my hands make it LOL. I hate to use my credit cards. So easy to get in a jam with those bad boys

nice, how did you fasten the mounting board that the amps are mounted on to the boat? I am currently trying to find a place to mount my amp on my 02 outback.

Thanks Newty!

Mmandley, Don't know what your budget is for tower speakers but best bang for the buck imo is the kicker KMT6 setup, can be had all over ebay for around $250 and these suckers really put out some sound if driven right. You could get an amp, speakers and all neccessary stuff for around $500!

I put the flip-up bow light on mine last year, Overton's has them now, Aqua Signal.

Newty has a handle around the swimstep ala Supra?! OK i gotta see that one!

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nice, how did you fasten the mounting board that the amps are mounted on to the boat? I am currently trying to find a place to mount my amp on my 02 outback.

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To the reinforcing rib on the floor and the rubrail backing block at the top via custom brackets. Props to Newty for that info. :D

thanks for the info. I am going to try this cheap 1800W 5 channel. For the budget hopefully it will be decent.

http://www.millionbuy.com/boscx1800.html

Grab rail pics

Razz 500 is the budget i want to stay in right now. I figure i can upgrade to better later on but i want something to use for this summer for sure.

Ill be looking into that.

Yea Newty has a nice swim deck railing. I am going to pick his brain next time i see him as to what i have to do to get that done LOL.

Ok Razz this is what im thinking..

http://www.techronics.com/index.cfm?...roduct_ID=8909 amp for the cabin speakers and use the factory kicker for the tower speakers.

Or http://www.amazon.com/Kicker-07MX350...365816&sr=1-10 to stick with all Kicker amps

http://www.techronics.com/index.cfm?...roduct_ID=8819 tower speakers.

mmandley stay away from Clarion amps. They are way over rated. I would go with kicker if I were you. For the money they are the best bang for the buck! I've heard great things about those tower speakers though.
Check these guys out. I've always had good luck with them and are usually the lowest price around.
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/

Here is what I would run to those towers.
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...r+ZX450.2.html

There was a post on Wakeworld regarding ideal power for these tower speakers and one of the main marketing guys for Kicker Phil White recommended this amp for that application.
A very informative thread. Read through about the first 1/2 and you will get the idea.
http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/m...tml?1242150676

You will be far happier if you do it right the frist time.
Just remember its only money, you'll make more!:p

As Newty says run with Kicker, awesome stuf made for the long haul. And he's right about the Clarion amps, nothing but trouble!

If i remember right it's the Kicker ZX450.2 he recommends for the KTM6 setup but let me check.

Phil White from Kicker is just one cool dude, to make himself available to the forums is just awesome. I remember two years ago when he first showed on the Tigé forum i just thought he was one of those stereo now-it-all dudes, couldn't have been more correct! :p

Oops didn't notice Newty beat me to it, again! :p Anyway run the ZX450.2 to the KTM6 speakers and you won't be sorry!

Sweet deal i think ill most likly do that. I got Vetoed on ordering anything last night =(

GF said i have to wait till Saturday because we are goign to Demo Days and she said you know if you order sterio stuff that you realy dont need, only want then you might see a nice board Saturday and be mad your out of play money LOL.

Dam i hate it when she pulls my budget reasoning card out..

I ordered all my Kicker amps from ebay. Look at my pictures. I think that we all have a very similar set up. I am very happy with the Kicker amps. If they are hooked up correctly, you should not have any problems. I've had mine in for about a year now and zero problems. Amps do not get hot at all. I have had Clarion before and wasn't really happy with them. Plus it was getting really hot. I am only speaking from experience. I am sure there are some boat owners that love clarion. I am not knocking the product at all. I just really like my Kicker amps.

MMandley,

great site techronics let me know how it works out , soniceletronix is good as well. Saw my JL M6600 on there for a great price:mad: i paid alot more than that. I use it to power cabins, tower and sub and use Hu for the bow.. One amp very simple sounds great.

Razz, nice clean setup, where are your batteries mounted, mine were moved in the install and not too happy were they ended up. I wanted the momo's but could not pass up the db651's:D

JM my batts are side by side pushed as far forward in the storage compartment as possible in order to maximize storage under the dash.

I gota a killer deal on the momo's @ $70 a pair almost six months ago from Crutchfield, couldn't pass it up! :D

Stay away from SonicElectronics...... I ordered 5 pairs of the Polk DB650's over a month ago. They are still on backorder and they keep trying to get me to go with a cheaper speaker just to make the sale.

Ordered an amp at the same time which they sent, charged me for shipping for the amp and the speakers. I still have not been able to get the shipping back on the speakers.

Looks like i will have to go to Crutchfield for the speakers if I can get my shipping back from sonic.....

Just my two cents.......

OK so after hours of exhaustive research and such i think i have desided to buy some

T series Fusion speakers.

http://www.floatingtoys.com/catalog/detail/TS-514C

I found them on Ebay but the link to them is long.

Power them with

http://www.hifisoundconnection.com/S...FRlcagodci6s3Q

Let me know what yall think of those speakers.

Also there is the

http://www.floatingtoys.com/catalog/detail/TS-3WC-C

they have blue LEDs around them but you cant see them in the pics. These would require a bigger amp too i think.

Razz, did the battery move leave a void in the floor. MY obv has a rectangle cut out in the floor for the battery which makes it difficult to move. or leaves a hole which i don't like.

JM the LSV's don't have the batt "box" in the floor like the OBV. I don't know why they did that, if it was mine i'd pull the carpet and either put a seaboard lid on it or just foam-n-resin it over. When space is at a premium why put the batt(s) right in the way?

Mmandley, the Fusions are prone to chrome peeling issues big time. There's been more than just a few posts about those on Wakeworld. If your going to spend that much then go with the Bullet Hollow Points. Second you don't want 5 1/4" speakers either.

Well i wasn't looking to spend what you see on that website. I found them on Ebay for 160 a pair. The company went out of business and is liquidating there inventory.

They come in black also.

They also have for 350 those 3 ways that are linked.
This link is what looks to be there all aluminum cases. More then what i was looking to spend but i would spend the extra if its worth it.
http://cgi.ebay.com/WAKEBOARD-TOWER-...742.m153.l1262

I did find

http://www.thefind.com/sports/browse...page=2&local=0

Cant decide on Kicker Polk or Wetsounds speaker set up. Im looking at the Single Bullets.

mmandley Noooooooooooooooooooooo!
Stay away from Fusion.
I've had nothing but problems with mine. I know they sound ok but you will def kick youself later.
1. No warranty
2. Bad finish
3. Overpriced replacement speakers. (replacement tweeter $85).
4. Can not buy replacement speakers from Diamond. You have to go through a dealer. Dealers don't want to sell you a diamond replacement speaker unless you buy the overpriced set ($160 or more).
5. X-over eats tweeters for lunch
6. Clamps strip out.
7. Don't buy Fusion Stuff.
8. Run, run fast!
Stick with the Kicker. Just wait a couple months and save your money.
Did I mention, DONT BUY FUSION STUFF?

Very nice! Sweet:)

OK so i finally decided to get this set up

Kicker 700.5 to run my 6 interior speakers and sub

Kicker 450.2 to run my tower speakers

KMT6 Tower speakers.

Those two amps will replace my factory amps Kicker 200.2 and Kicker 200.4 so im expecting a lot more sound very soon.

Thanks Newty and Razz for your advise and helping me out here.

Also got word today my Z5 rack has finally been made my Skiers Choice and is in the mail so looks like next week will be a busy for the UPS guy to my house.

Ill post new updated pics of Fierah when i get all that gear installed

Mmandley, way to go! You won't be dissapointed! Just glad we didn't have to have a Fusion intervention! :p

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Originally Posted by newty

mmandley Noooooooooooooooooooooo!
Stay away from Fusion.
I've had nothing but problems with mine. I know they sound ok but you will def kick youself later.
1. No warranty
2. Bad finish
3. Overpriced replacement speakers. (replacement tweeter $85).
4. Can not buy replacement speakers from Diamond. You have to go through a dealer. Dealers don't want to sell you a diamond replacement speaker unless you buy the overpriced set ($160 or more).
5. X-over eats tweeters for lunch
6. Clamps strip out.
7. Don't buy Fusion Stuff.
8. Run, run fast!
Stick with the Kicker. Just wait a couple months and save your money.
Did I mention, DONT BUY FUSION STUFF?

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Newty,
I feel some hate in this fourm about fusion. I have been running a set of fusion tower speakers without any issues. I have had to replace my Kicker amp twice to solve a feedback issues. Just my 2 cents. Still nothing wrong with Kicker. They make good amps.

Jester, no hate, just the facts. No doubt not everyone is going to have these issues with Fusions but a good many will. Seen it too many times and other forums are full of Fusion problems. Good idea & looks, but bad execution is what it boils down to is all.

Jester I do like my Fusions, don't get me wrong, but... knowing what I know now I would have never bought them. Not worth the headaches I've had with them.

Begin rant:
I used to sell them when I had my marine audio buisness!! There customer sevice was terrible, and the product is second rate (compared to some of the other top guys out there).
Even when they were in buisness there warranty was garbage. You could never get a hold of anyone, and they never returned phone calls. It took 9 months to get a new mirror clamp warrantied and sent to me. When they did it was the wrong size! Just an example of some of the crap I delt with. So its no suprise Fusion went under.
So yea a little hate but its all based my experience and interaction with Fusion. Not on others experiences.
In my opinion = not good.
End rant.
I'm stoked if folks out there still have good working fusion equipment, but know I'll never buy fusion stuff again, and if I can help it I don't want other folks to either.
Part of the beauty of these forums is we can bounce ideas off of each other, and talk about experiences we've had with companys and products. This is mine.:p

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Part of the beauty of these forums is we can bounce ideas off of each other, and talk about experiences we've had with companys and products. This is mine.:p

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Amen Newty, that's a good part of what it's all about :) So you were in the audio indusrty? No wonder you're stuff is so clean!

Yea It started as a hobby in high school then it was favors for friends then turned into weekend jobs. It was fun but I was only busy when it was nice outside and it took a lot of time away from my family. Especially while holding down a full time job.
If I had a shop it might have been better but here in the NW, when fall comes around the boat stereo buisness dries up.

So if I understand everyone correctly, no to fusions?

That would be an affirmative! :p

I don't have a tower, but I just wanted to sure just in case:)

Smart Arse!!:p