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Now that the boat makers have their 2023 models and prices out, anyone hearing about additional price increases for builds that will be sprayed in the new year of 2023? Not directly pointing towards SC, more of an industry question.
Happened on the 2022 models. I do not see why it would not happen on 2023 models with part delays/shortages and what things still cost.
Malibu has a 5-8% increase for 2023 boats.
there is some discussion here:
https://forum.moomba.com/showthread....1-2023-pricing
wonder what the state of the market will be come next spring. onlyinboards is at it's highest point since early 2020 and interest rates are creeping up.
have seen a lot of new 2022's still for sale that have not sold. as MJH calls out not brand specific but just an overall observation of the market. skiers seems to have done a better job selling their inventory than a lot of brands but anyone else see sales pulling back into 2023?
I know if I was in or getting ready to enter the market, I'd 100% hold off until next spring unless the deal of a lifetime came along. gut is IF the used market shows signs of pulling back, new boats will likely follow suite. not sure I'd want to have a deposit on a 2023 right now.
Ive had nothing but problems with my 21 mojo. My dealer offered to buy it back at the price i bought it for 15 months ago. I know with the price increases it's a good deal for him to but im so over this pos boat im seriously considering it. The only hold up is the new supremes are 30k more and interest rates are 2% higher.
JUMP on that deal!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigs28
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I would jump on that. Hard to sell a boat that doesnt work. Just sucks with the timing of it all. Are you buying a supreme from the same dealer?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigs28
What are you waiting on? It isn't a good deal for him to buy back a broken problem boat. Sounds like he is trying to do you a solid. You are extremely salty towards your boat, and for good reason, get rid of that thing and don't have a payment for a while, save the money for a larger down payment.Quote:
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that boat would already be at the dealer IF there's no strings to buy a new boat from them if it was mine. dump it, save the coin and wait to see what the market does. if you are sold on supreme, the dealer here in sin city/denver has a couple 2022 leftovers so betting there will be deals to be had in the spring.
I will say the s220 I surfed a month ago has a great stock wave. few nitpicky things but overall a great boat.
They are now building Supreme in Valdosta GA, which is only about an hour from where I live. Those are some good looking boats. I think I may try to see about touring the plant just out of curiosity.
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I heard this one too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mxmark4
After Jan 1. Probably based on spray date.
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I would say that is pretty rare a dealer is willing to buy the boat back at purchase price. Any boat maker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigs28
Usually, I hear about the boat going back to the boat-builder and they work on it. If that happens, the downtime is big b/c the issue is big - like broken stringer(s), a major gel issue affecting the entire boat, etc.. I think that is avoided and the fixes are pushed to the dealer-side. Plus, most places to do not want their dirty laundry aired in public, so it's probably not discussed much.
As for 2023s, that is why I was posting this thread. I head of one boat maker increasing prices after the 23s were priced and models were released. Buyers will have to dig deeper if they want new.
I have not wanted to reply a bunch and hijack this thread but answering the original question, dealer told me supreme 2023 mark up is 12%. Buying back the boat for full sales price was trade in towards a new boat.
Do you have any faith in this dealer being able to repair a supreme any better than your moomba?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigs28
there are quite a few dealers that, in our current environment, will take a newish boat back at retail sale for another sale. my cousin has done it a couple times with his tige/skiers dealer and the centurion/supreme here in vegas said they have a couple 2023's sold on the same premise with their 2022's on the lot for sale.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigs28
I would say with supreme now building in the east and I am guessing this is to start getting marketshare out there, it's in both supreme and his best interest to move you out of a midwest/east coast brand into what has been a west coast brand to help build the clientele.
they are only churning out about half of what centurion is doing out in Cali as I was told they have some manufacturing hurdles to overcome. iirc something like 1200 boats in 2022 but I wasn't completely paying attention.
1200 is about what moomba builds a year.
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Never rode on a Supreme.
The local dealer is trying to get more boats in the Knoxville market. Once was based on Norris, now have a 2nd shop in West Knoxville. Staring to see a few more on the water - both Centurion and Supreme.