2022 Moomba Max Vs. Mojo

Hello all,

First time post here, but I’ve read a ton from the forum and I’m hoping to get some help. So, my family is looking into purchasing what will end up being a 2022 Max or Mojo. But since we don't have the info on those yet, I'm just going off the 2021 specs. I just wanted to get your thoughts on the two. We have a family of five and we would generally take out another family of five on our last boat, a 2005 Outback. With going into the bigger boat, we might take another family of five as well. So, 15 total with 6 adults and 9 kids who are all under 8 years old. I like to surf, but we do wakeboard as well, and the kids love riding in the tube. We live in Colorado, so our season is a little short. I planned on getting some dry suits to try and extend it a bit. The elevation where we boat is around 5000 feet.

The price I got after upgrades I want on the Max is around $94k (with 400 motor). The price on the Mojo is around $109k (with 450 motor). The dealer said the upgraded motor on the Mojo would be wise and likely necessary due to crew and altitude. Although I’m not sure why it wasn’t suggested on the Max which is only 200 pounds lighter. Honestly, both are a little more than I wanted to spend. But the used market seems difficult right now and it feels like it would be better to spend the extra money and buy new. We plan on trying to buy at the end of the 2021 season. Dealer said they can do about 3% off MSRP and said this is about the same as they would do at the boat show right now (if we had one). I know boats are selling like crazy. But, does that sound right?

Anyway, I know the Max is a ton of value for the amount of boat you are getting. The Mojo seems to have a little more frills (hinged seats, Flow 3 option, walk through transom, trash can, 6 inches bigger, etc). Just wondering what your thoughts are on each? Do you think the upgraded motor is necessary? Does Flow 3 make that big of a difference with a surf/ wake wave? Any thoughts on new vs. used? Advice on must have or don’t do options? Any help or insight you have is greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Wren

Mojo all day long. For 15K more you are getting more HP a bigger boat and a better looking boat imo.

Buy the Mojo. Dealer around me wasn't dealing on the price but was willing to throw extra warranty at me when I was shopping new (7yr vs 5yr), and adding extras like $250 pro shop credit. You need the extra power at 5000ft with 15 people and ballast full. My last boat (crownline) with 4 adults, no ballast, and skiing struggled to get on plane in Ohio 900ft.

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Originally Posted by Holdmybeer

Buy the Mojo. Dealer around me wasn't dealing on the price but was willing to throw extra warranty at me when I was shopping new (7yr vs 5yr), and adding extras like $250 pro shop credit. You need the extra power at 5000ft with 15 people and ballast full. My last boat (crownline) with 4 adults, no ballast, and skiing struggled to get on plane in Ohio 900ft.

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Skier’s choice gave 7 years warranty to any delivery starting Jan 2021. It was there endless summer promotion.


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https://forum.moomba.com/showthread....jo-vs-2021-max

Here's a great thread, albeit focused on 21' models.

3% off seems silly to me, but maybe that's the environment we are in. A whopping 7 months ago, I was offered 9% and most were getting at least 6% and some freebies without trying.

I am surprised dealers gave any discounts this year. They would have offended repeat customers sure, but the market is red hot.


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Thanks all. That's how I felt as well. Honestly, initially looking and without checking price, I was hoping to spend closer to 80k on whatever boat we got (new or used). But after looking further into it, I realized that was not going to happen with what we were wanting.

Any thoughts on necessary upgrades or things not to get? Also any thoughts on Flow 3 vs. Flow 2?

Guppy I briefly checked out the other thread as well. I am like you checking two bottles of ketchup and looking at price per ounce for the deal. I am also the guy who feels like he has to have a good deal to make a purchase. So the whole no or limited discount off MSRP is hard. Anyway, Thanks for the link.

A necessary upgrade to me is surf exhaust. That was mandatory. So was a heater.

These are strange times. In the past I wouldn't buy a boat if it wasn't 20% off or so.. and those were still bad deals LOL. Now, none of my previous boats were inboard to be fair. The crazy thing is that whatever you pay for your boat today, you're likely to get back if you sell it next year, and the trend looks to continue. I would never in my life thought that I would say that.
Anyway, work them for a discount and buy the Mojo with flow 3 in my opinion, but if Max make more sense financially, you will be happy too.

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Thanks all. That's how I felt as well. Honestly, initially looking and without checking price, I was hoping to spend closer to 80k on whatever boat we got (new or used). But after looking further into it, I realized that was not going to happen with what we were wanting.

Any thoughts on necessary upgrades or things not to get? Also any thoughts on Flow 3 vs. Flow 2?

Guppy I briefly checked out the other thread as well. I am like you checking two bottles of ketchup and looking at price per ounce for the deal. I am also the guy who feels like he has to have a good deal to make a purchase. So the whole no or limited discount off MSRP is hard. Anyway, Thanks for the link.

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You sound like younger, much better version of me! I hear you man. For many, it's about being treated with respect on what is, for most, the second biggest purchase of their life. Of course, a consumer doesn't feel bad about leveraging a down market at the expense of margin, so I'm sure the dealers feel like it's time to have pot me kettle. Here's the thing though. Most dealers don't sell just one boat to a family, even if the family swears it's their "forever boat". I follow a lot of instagram dealer sites and I constantly see "Congrats on (insert brand here) #4 for the Smith family. I think dealers understand this and hopefully realize that walking you over a courtesy discount could cost them downstream when times aren't as good. Let them know that you could see yourself in a Supra someday if they are interested in establishing a relationship.

I'd make an offer and let them say no. I mean, be realistic for the market of course, but there's no reason they shouldn't be willing to work with you a little if you are willing to hand them a five digit profit of your hard earned money.

As far as options....

Get what you want. It's real easy for me to spend your money on my keyboard, but it's an AMAZING boat...so make it as easy and as comfortable as you can to enjoy it by optioning it up with things that make you, your family, and friends go...Wow..this is BAD A!!

I ordered my boat in October and left out little 200- 400 dollar options and things to trick myself into thinking I was "being financially prudent". From then until my spray date, I added about 6k worth of stuff, each time thinking "what the hell am I doing? It's $400 bucks on a boat that cost 104 THOUSAND dollars. If I'm spending that much already, I'm paying the extra $2.00 a month to have a boat that I'm love with. Why? Because there is no such thing as being financially prudent when buying a boat...lol.

Flow 3....Surf Exhaust..Big Screen....all the options that 90% of others boaters get....get them...there is a reason everyone does. The things like upgraded engines, trailer bling, and maybe even racks...those are some expensive items that might not make your experience at all better, so save the money. But if you commit to buying a 2022 brand new six digit surf boat, equip it like a 2022 brand new six digit surf boat!

Whatever you decide, it will be the right decision!!!!

Good Luck

Curious, do you folks set a budget before buying something? (such as a boat) . Or is it more impulse driven (justified with its only $2 per month more).

If your ok with $15k swing why stop there- Why not swing higher to a Supra?

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Originally Posted by brad460

Curious, do you folks set a budget before buying something? (such as a boat) . Or is it more impulse driven (justified with its only $2 per month more).

If your ok with $15k swing why stop there- Why not swing higher to a Supra?

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Honestly, I did set a budget and it wasn't until I started looking that I realized my budget wasn't realistic. I used to be the guy that said I wouldn't buy anything new. But a few years ago when I was in the market for a truck (because we were having another kid and the car seats wouldn't fit in my old one), I looked and looked and then realized the price difference between new and used wasn't that far off. Really, knowing I was saving less than 20% to buy a newer used truck and possibly buying someone else's problem just didn't seem worth it to me. I ended up buying new and have not regretted it since. Although I will say, I just bought off the lot and did get a really good deal... which definitely helped.

I suppose this is the reason for looking into a new boat. Again, I've looked at the used market and the savings is about the same... 20%. Plus, used boats right now are often selling for more than they are worth and selling quick. I'm still open to the idea though. I think my wife and I are thinking we'll just save some more money to put down on a new boat and it will balance out. Especially since we know we're not going to be able to get out on the water this year (mainly due to work for me). As for the Supra... at some point the extra couple bucks a month becomes an extra couple hundred bucks and it doesn't balance out. Plus I feel like the resale value on the "budget" boats is better because they are typically within reach for most people who are looking. Hopefully that makes sense.

I set a budget and after a year of not finding a boat i decided f my budget. Im not wasting another year of lost memories i could be making with my family. The mojo i have on order is more then double my original budget looking for a used boat. Was definitely not impulse. My dealer said in 20 years we were the most undecisive back and forth customers here ever had and i consider that a win.

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Originally Posted by Guppydriver

You sound like younger, much better version of me! I hear you man. For many, it's about being treated with respect on what is, for most, the second biggest purchase of their life. Of course, a consumer doesn't feel bad about leveraging a down market at the expense of margin, so I'm sure the dealers feel like it's time to have pot me kettle. Here's the thing though. Most dealers don't sell just one boat to a family, even if the family swears it's their "forever boat". I follow a lot of instagram dealer sites and I constantly see "Congrats on (insert brand here) #4 for the Smith family. I think dealers understand this and hopefully realize that walking you over a courtesy discount could cost them downstream when times aren't as good. Let them know that you could see yourself in a Supra someday if they are interested in establishing a relationship.

I'd make an offer and let them say no. I mean, be realistic for the market of course, but there's no reason they shouldn't be willing to work with you a little if you are willing to hand them a five digit profit of your hard earned money.

As far as options....

Get what you want. It's real easy for me to spend your money on my keyboard, but it's an AMAZING boat...so make it as easy and as comfortable as you can to enjoy it by optioning it up with things that make you, your family, and friends go...Wow..this is BAD A!!

I ordered my boat in October and left out little 200- 400 dollar options and things to trick myself into thinking I was "being financially prudent". From then until my spray date, I added about 6k worth of stuff, each time thinking "what the hell am I doing? It's $400 bucks on a boat that cost 104 THOUSAND dollars. If I'm spending that much already, I'm paying the extra $2.00 a month to have a boat that I'm love with. Why? Because there is no such thing as being financially prudent when buying a boat...lol.

Flow 3....Surf Exhaust..Big Screen....all the options that 90% of others boaters get....get them...there is a reason everyone does. The things like upgraded engines, trailer bling, and maybe even racks...those are some expensive items that might not make your experience at all better, so save the money. But if you commit to buying a 2022 brand new six digit surf boat, equip it like a 2022 brand new six digit surf boat!

Whatever you decide, it will be the right decision!!!!

Good Luck

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Yeah, I definitely get it with the market right now. Dealers are able to basically say if you don’t want it someone else will. Which is an obvious reason why they are being stingy on price (and like you said, it’s understandable). I do plan on making a realistic offer that I feel comfortable with and isn’t like I’m asking for the moon.

Lol… About spending my money on a keyboard. The options you and some others talked about were things I was really wanting and planned on getting. I don’t plan on upgrading the trailer much other than the things I know I need (spare tire, guide poles, swing-away tongue, transom steps). Dealer did recommend the engine upgrade just due to our altitude and desire to have a larger crew (albeit 9 of the 15 are kids under 8). My dealer was also telling me he didn’t see much of a difference between the Flow 2 and Flow 3. He was suggesting sticking with the Flow 2 but adding the G6. Anyone have any thoughts on Flow 2 vs. Flow 3?

Thanks again

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Originally Posted by Bigs28

A necessary upgrade to me is surf exhaust. That was mandatory. So was a heater.

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Thanks. Those are two upgraded I also felt were mandatory. Especially the heater, since we boat in Colorado and I'd really like to extend the season a bit.

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Originally Posted by Ralphy

These are strange times. In the past I wouldn't buy a boat if it wasn't 20% off or so.. and those were still bad deals LOL. Now, none of my previous boats were inboard to be fair. The crazy thing is that whatever you pay for your boat today, you're likely to get back if you sell it next year, and the trend looks to continue. I would never in my life thought that I would say that.
Anyway, work them for a discount and buy the Mojo with flow 3 in my opinion, but if Max make more sense financially, you will be happy too.

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I was leaning toward the Mojo as well but felt the need to get some validation. Lol. What are your thoughts on Flow 2 vs. Flow 3? I know Flow 3 adds the extra tab but what does it do in terms of wave quality?

Personally mine is planned. I set a budget and then look real hard at what I am comfortable with if I excide that figure. I bought used but I was shopping new at first. $90K for the Max seemed ridiculous to me. So I used the website like everyone else and built the Max I wanted, all options. I wasn't at 90K but close, and tax and prep, etc. I was still under but much closer to the dealer's numbers. Having a base of 62K I figured I could get used for that number, and I was very wrong if i wanted a 1yr old boat. But that is how I set my used budget moving forward. I ended up finding a Mojo at that price and before scheduling the in-person meeting came to the reality that I was being scammed. I then found my 2015 for less that my budget and it has allowed me to add extras and clean up things and still keep my accounts tight.

Back to the new purchase, I look at it long term. Am I ever going to pay this thing off and keep it 15+ years or is it basically a long term rental? If it is a rental resale and options are going to win out. The extra 15K is never going to hit your pocket, but the next buyer will want the 15K in options and make it easier to sell. You are going to pay $2 more a month on your "rental" then someone else is going to assume your "rental" and then they will pay the remainder.
But why not jump to the luxury version? This again comes down to monthly payment. Buying a 90k boat and paying 675 a month or buying a 104K boat and paying 677 a month, no one cares. Jumping to a 160k+ boat is now getting into $1000 month payments and hard to swallow (House vs Car payment ideas). Also, it is harder to find the next buyer knowing you still need a large sum of money to get away from this long term rental. Most luxury vehicles have higher depreciation and the first owner takes to larger bite.

Just my $0.02, but it works in my head. I want the luxury of a top tier boat someday, but the smaller payments are much easier to make when the white stuff is falling. The goal is to break even (or make a buck in this economy), but I shall see in the coming years.

Everyone knows what they can afford in the end.

Would be foolish to buy above your means.


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Anyone have any thoughts on the planned crew size - 6 adults and 9 kids - 6 boys and 3 girls - Boys ages are 9,9,8,7,6,5 and Girls are 4,3, and 2? This will be their ages next season. My thought was to have the boys up in the bow of either boat. Just wondering if that is realistic when it comes to safety and space? Also, wondering where you all keep your ice chest? With the new Mojo, will it fit in the area in front of the observers seat with that seat cushion removed?

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Anyone have any thoughts on the planned crew size - 6 adults and 9 kids - 6 boys and 3 girls - Boys ages are 9,9,8,7,6,5 and Girls are 4,3, and 2? This will be their ages next season. My thought was to have the boys up in the bow of either boat. Just wondering if that is realistic when it comes to safety and space? Also, wondering where you all keep your ice chest? With the new Mojo, will it fit in the area in front of the observers seat with that seat cushion removed?

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I think that crew size will be uncomfortable even on a Makai. Honestly the people ratings on these boats is ridiculous, my opinion is if the boat claims 16, it’s honestly 8.

Two adults in the bow is good, 6 kids.....


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Don't take this the wrong way...I love my kids and I love my friend's kids, but 9 kids and 6 adults on a 23' boat is going to be brutal! Fortunately, all of my friends with kids have their own boats, we may take all the girls one day and have 4-5 girls on our boat and then the next day we might take the boys, some days our kids are on the other boats and we are adults only on ours. Your surf or wakeboarding rotation with that many people will literally take all day. Honestly, that is way too many kids and people in 1 boat in my opinion no matter how well they all get along. You are gonna need a Xanex prescription or maybe you are in a state where marijuana is legal and that would help.

My opinion FWIW is that a crew of 15 is going to be crowded on either of those boats (full disclosure I have not set foot in a new Mojo). As stated above 15 on the Makai would even be tight but your other crew size of 10 would be comfortable. I have had 10 adults on my boat and it was very comfortable and enjoyable. Have you built a Mojo and then built a Makai and checked the price difference? Some of the options you are talking about are more expensive on the Mojo vs the Makai so the delta wont be as much.

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You are gonna need a Xanex prescription or maybe you are in a state where marijuana is legal and that would help.

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I thought those two things were mandatory medications before taking care of children lol :)

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Honestly, I did set a budget and it wasn't until I started looking that I realized my budget wasn't realistic. I used to be the guy that said I wouldn't buy anything new. But a few years ago when I was in the market for a truck (because we were having another kid and the car seats wouldn't fit in my old one), I looked and looked and then realized the price difference between new and used wasn't that far off. Really, knowing I was saving less than 20% to buy a newer used truck and possibly buying someone else's problem just didn't seem worth it to me. I ended up buying new and have not regretted it since. Although I will say, I just bought off the lot and did get a really good deal... which definitely helped.

I suppose this is the reason for looking into a new boat. Again, I've looked at the used market and the savings is about the same... 20%. Plus, used boats right now are often selling for more than they are worth and selling quick. I'm still open to the idea though. I think my wife and I are thinking we'll just save some more money to put down on a new boat and it will balance out. Especially since we know we're not going to be able to get out on the water this year (mainly due to work for me). As for the Supra... at some point the extra couple bucks a month becomes an extra couple hundred bucks and it doesn't balance out. Plus I feel like the resale value on the "budget" boats is better because they are typically within reach for most people who are looking. Hopefully that makes sense.

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Got it..

For me I like to set a exact budget and will refuse to budge. In the case of a boat it gave me a goal to drive towards- meaning it becomes a challenge for me to get the best boat for the price. I priced out different manufacturers boats, got pricing from 2+ dealers, pitted the dealers against each other on pricing, etc....I also keep emotions out of it - if I don’t get the deal I want then we won’t buy. I rather be without a boat for a year than over-pay.

This all drives my wife nuts because I do this with everything we buy- I wouldn’t call myself squeaky per say, just a little ocd when it comes to buying things..

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Got it..

For me I like to set a exact budget and will refuse to budge. In the case of a boat it gave me a goal to drive towards- meaning it becomes a challenge for me to get the best boat for the price. I priced out different manufacturers boats, got pricing from 2+ dealers, pitted the dealers against each other on pricing, etc....I also keep emotions out of it - if I don’t get the deal I want then we won’t buy. I rather be without a boat for a year than over-pay.

This all drives my wife nuts because I do this with everything we buy- I wouldn’t call myself squeaky per say, just a little ocd when it comes to buying things..

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Not a bad approach, it’s a lot of work, but with higher end toys, some get more satisfaction out of the “deal” itself.

As I have aged, it’s more about what I want, quality, content, then it is about price. Zero emotion involved.

I would take a boat that has the exact features, colors, content that I custom ordered over an additional discount for colors and content sitting on the showroom floor.

To each their own.


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Originally Posted by larry_arizona

Not a bad approach, it’s a lot of work, but with higher end toys, some get more satisfaction out of the “deal” itself.

As I have aged, it’s more about what I want, quality, content, then it is about price. Zero emotion involved.

I would take a boat that has the exact features, colors, content that I custom ordered over an additional discount for colors and content sitting on the showroom floor.

To each their own.


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It’s funny you mention that- I feel like I’ve gotten much worse as I’ve gotten older when it comes to buying things! :-D

I need help...haha.

Walked out the other day over a fricken bunk bed for my son...the salesman wouldn’t get me a bigger discount. Wife just rolled her eyes...

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It’s funny you mention that- I feel like I’ve gotten much worse as I’ve gotten older when it comes to buying things! :-D

I need help...haha.

Walked out the other day over a fricken bunk bed for my son...the salesman wouldn’t get me a bigger discount. Wife just rolled her eyes...

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You will get there, I am now at the age of IDGAF. Takes time grasshopper.


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Walked out the other day over a fricken bunk bed for my son...the salesman wouldn’t get me a bigger discount. Wife just rolled her eyes...

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Lol... The budget posts are awesome! Brad, that is basically what I ended up doing with my truck. Driving back and forth over an hour each way until the dealer finally budged. I did the same thing with my wife's vehicle. It can drive my wife crazy as well. But I also know she appreciates the savings. I just know the boat market is so crazy right now and the "deal" likely will not come. Plus, with me living in Colorado we don't have too many boat dealers nearby. As someone else said I don't feel like waiting around knowing I'm missing out on another year of making memories with the family as the kids continue to get older. I know we're already missing this season because of issues unrelated to the purchase. I just love being on the water so much and the thought of missing another season sucks. As for used... right now I just don't want to deal with the headache unless I find something that we're in love with and can grab it before someone else does. I still keep an eye out.

All... thanks for the info on the size of the crew. I'll be sure to let my wife know your thoughts. We do all get along well and honestly getting three families together for an entire day is like trying to hack the nuclear football. Which is something my wife typically deals with, so I'm not sure if it would ever even happen. We just wanted the "legal" option to do so I suppose.

Another thing I have learned, don’t buy your toys to accommodate others. Buy based on your direct family only.

Technically, yes a 23 foot boat would be legal with that crew, hell, I am not even sure where 15 life jackets would fit on a max or mojo.

1st world problems


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All... thanks for the info on the size of the crew. I'll be sure to let my wife know your thoughts. We do all get along well and honestly getting three families together for an entire day is like trying to hack the nuclear football. Which is something my wife typically deals with, so I'm not sure if it would ever even happen. We just wanted the "legal" option to do so I suppose.

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We have had 16 on our 2016 Mojo. It is a bit cramped, but doable. Since you are talking about young kids, they don't take up as much space. The young kids tend to want to run around the boat so it takes a little bit of education to get them to not move when you are driving and you need an adult to sit up front to keep things in control in the bow. Sitting in the captain's seat it all feels the same though :D

Jackets must be worn at all times by kids 12 and under, so that space issue is less of a problem. The biggest issue we have with the big crew is all the extra gear (kneeboards, wakeboards, surfboards) and dealing with food/snacks and keeping things clean. Everyone has to understand with the big crew that they don't get a long surf set and the regulars (my kids) may forego surfing and instead help teach and deal with ropes. It is a good education for them on how to become a future boat owner.

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Another thing I have learned, don’t buy your toys to accommodate others. Buy based on your direct family only.

Technically, yes a 23 foot boat would be legal with that crew, hell, I am not even sure where 15 life jackets would fit on a max or mojo.

1st world problems


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With that many people.....the beer cooler should add a couple hundred pounds of ballast....lol

We do 6 adults and 8 young, but no diapers, kids on our mojo all the time... It's packed, but it's fine, but we also usually don't do all day events since we're on the lake.

Get the flow 3.0! Once you get good at transferring, you will hate that it flow 2.0 requires a little bit of listing weight for a good wave, 3.0 allows staying pretty much evenly weighed down for ballast.

Also, get an inflatable swim mat like the mission mats, they flod up small and are great for getting kids off the boat for when you want to finally just sit and have a beer!

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If I could tell you guys how many times I walked a fair deal on something I really loved over 1-3% of the price, only to then have to invest more than said 1-3% restarting the entire process to eventually find a slightly less costly but much less satisfying replacement...

Not worth the stress anymore for me. I'll fiercely negotiate, but I don't lose sleep anymore because some random dude on a forum in Des Moines got a better deal than me. If he even did.

I honestly know people who feel that if the dealer agreed to it...they paid too much. Paradoxical? Yes, but true. Had a buddy who pretty much stole a Ram a few years ago. Best deal I've ever seen. He faked his way into out of state credit unions to get additional $250 regional discounts and crap...no stone unturned. I told him I was BLOWN AWAY at the deal he got, and his response-

"I paid too much"

I replied "How do you figure"

"Because they agreed to it"

Hmmm... "So anything they agree to is by definition too much?"

"Yes"

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We do 6 adults and 8 young, but no diapers, kids on our mojo all the time... It's packed, but it's fine, but we also usually don't do all day events since we're on the lake.

Get the flow 3.0! Once you get good at transferring, you will hate that it flow 2.0 requires a little bit of listing weight for a good wave, 3.0 allows staying pretty much evenly weighed down for ballast.

Also, get an inflatable swim mat like the mission mats, they flod up small and are great for getting kids off the boat for when you want to finally just sit and have a beer!

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Thanks for the info. I figured it would be packed and maybe we'd just give it a try. If it works out... cool. If not, I'm not too worried about it. Thanks for the advice on Flow 3 as well. I'll make sure to add this in. I did plan on getting a mission mat. I've used them before and they are really nice.

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If I could tell you guys how many times I walked a fair deal on something I really loved over 1-3% of the price, only to then have to invest more than said 1-3% restarting the entire process to eventually find a slightly less costly but much less satisfying replacement...

Not worth the stress anymore for me. I'll fiercely negotiate, but I don't lose sleep anymore because some random dude on a forum in Des Moines got a better deal than me. If he even did.

I honestly know people who feel that if the dealer agreed to it...they paid too much. Paradoxical? Yes, but true. Had a buddy who pretty much stole a Ram a few years ago. Best deal I've ever seen. He faked his way into out of state credit unions to get additional $250 regional discounts and crap...no stone unturned. I told him I was BLOWN AWAY at the deal he got, and his response-

"I paid too much"

I replied "How do you figure"

"Because they agreed to it"

Hmmm... "So anything they agree to is by definition too much?"

"Yes"

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Again, I am very much the same way. I will literally spend months of time researching, negotiating, and going back and forth. Not even considering the amount of money in time I am spending to get a "good deal". As I get older I am slowly realizing "time is money" and trying to relax a little. I did get a smoking deal on my truck, but it was a truck on the lot, and its bright RED. Which honestly, I've grown to love. My wife definitely appreciated the red and wanted me to get it over a white one that didn't have the same upgrades mine does. The guy I bought my last boat from was a manager over a couple Chevy dealerships and said he knew exactly what deal I got and that it was an amazing price for the truck. Which made me feel better. The "I paid too much because they agreed to it" mindset may be a bit much for me. Simply because you'd never buy anything. But, sadly... I can say that I also totally get it. With the new boat purchase, I just want to make sure I'm not overpaying and that the resale value when we go to sell it (because I don't think it is a forever boat... even though I'd like it to be) will still be good compared to what we paid for it. Hopefully that makes sense...

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Originally Posted by larry_arizona

Another thing I have learned, don’t buy your toys to accommodate others. Buy based on your direct family only.

Technically, yes a 23 foot boat would be legal with that crew, hell, I am not even sure where 15 life jackets would fit on a max or mojo.

1st world problems


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Absolutely first world problems... and I do agree about buying for my family. For me though, boating is definitely a group thing and I enjoy taking people out and teaching. I know though that we have a guest bedroom in our house which we obviously paid for and it gets used maybe in total 30 days out of the year. I've talked with my wife about the often wasted space in the house. But we both agree that having a place for some friends to stay is worth it.

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Originally Posted by Guppydriver

"I paid too much"

I replied "How do you figure"

"Because they agreed to it"

Hmmm... "So anything they agree to is by definition too much?"

"Yes"

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That is hilarious!

I am not that extreme, but I will never agree to a dealers offer, they must agree to my last offer.

Strangely enough- my favorite part of buying a car, boat, land, snowmobile etc is the negotiating part. It’s like a competition thing to me...haha!

Just an idea of some pricing. I just bought this Makai several weeks ago. Here are the options and price. We were able to get a "boat show discount" even though the boat show was canceled and did not take place. I feel like this boat is plenty loaded out with features. He also through in a $500 Hyperlite surf board
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Originally Posted by HFarr

Just an idea of some pricing. I just bought this Makai several weeks ago. Here are the options and price. We were able to get a "boat show discount" even though the boat show was canceled and did not take place. I feel like this boat is plenty loaded out with features. He also through in a $500 Hyperlite surf board
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Thanks for sharing. Man if you're getting a Makai for $98k plus tax, etc. $105k out the door with just about every option I'd want... I'm definitely not paying close to $110k for a Mojo with the 450 motor. Which is the only difference I saw in your Makai with 400 motor. Mind if I ask where you bought from. Honestly, I'm willing to travel if I needed to.

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Originally Posted by HFarr

Just an idea of some pricing. I just bought this Makai several weeks ago. Here are the options and price. We were able to get a "boat show discount" even though the boat show was canceled and did not take place. I feel like this boat is plenty loaded out with features. He also through in a $500 Hyperlite surf board
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This was a very good deal!

Your dealer must understand this hot market won’t last forever and better to make lifelong customers than screw someone over..