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With many dealers sold out and taking early deposits for 2022 orders. Let’s have some fun speculating what SC has coming next.....
I predict Supra will skip updating the SR and bring out an all new Supra SL.
Not really much to improve on the SL, maybe 12” subs molded in like SE and SA. New interior and top deck styling.
2022 start rolling out in July right?
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I would like the SL be redesigned along the SA lines. The SA is the best looking Supra boat. I don't think that's going to happen this time around though. SL is a great boat as it is and selling well so why spend $$$ on retooling and new molds to fix something that's not broken.
I think the Craz is next in line to have something done. I dont think its a big seller right now. All I see are Mondo's, Kaiyens, and Max's in that size range getting all the attention. It might even get retired.
I was talking with my dealer as I was looking at 21 or 22 SL. He believed the 22SL would be redone along the lines of the SA. No major changes apart from the more aggrrssive styling, 12 inch subs, and if I recall correctly hinged bow cushions. All major components, like swell 3.0, ballast, vision control remain the same. Does the SA have more freeboard than the SL? That would be nive to have as well, bit not necessary IMO.
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I can’t argue that the SL needs nothing “fixed”. It was so good when it came out in 2018 and the SE and SA adopted all of its attributes.
They could easily just update to 12” subs and and hinged bow seats and be done, I personally love the SL lines.
Just basing the new SL on the Supra design cadence.
Moomba is a little more tricky to predict. With the following boat lineup....
20 Mondo new 2021
21.5 Kaiyen new 2020
22 Craz new 2016
22.5Max new 2018
23 Mojo new 2021.5
24.5 Makai new 2019
Easy pick would be Craz is next up or like was mentioned eliminated. Maybe they could do a Craz/Max hybrid?
My dealer has the mondo,kaiyen,mojo and Makai lined up next to each other in order and they truly are the same design with varying lengths, could they add a 22’ or is it too similar to the Kaiyen?
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Love the lines on the SL, Should stay different from SA IMO. My wish list. Quiet down the engine/transmission noise level, change in floor cooler opening to open from rear, allow two metallic colours on paint scheme, improve resolution and zoom and move tower camera to side so rope doesn’t interfere. They have improved on so many items every year and can’t wait to see what’s in store for 2022.
I think the SL will get some updates. Hopefully all will get some work on lowering the trans/v-drive noise.
Hopefully better resolution and positioning of both cameras and fix the GoPro integration.
I’d like to see all the seats hinged with zoned heating. I think that would be awesome for the cold water folks.
I think the Vision system is up for a redo. It needs multi platform app integration like some of the cars have(CarPlay, Google, Alexa, etc). Bluetooth ignition unlock that acts like a cars convenience system, so if your phone/watch is in proximity you can keyless start. And maybe drivers seat memory settings.
I know it wouldn’t do much in the warm climate areas, but maybe hydronic circulation around the cooler basin to help the cooler stay “cooler”.
Last thought. Move the battery switch to under the drivers console or behind the drivers seat at its current height so we don’t leave it open and step on it when doing checks, lowering tower, etc.
And integrate Justin’s trash chutes. Those are money.
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Anyone hear anything yet?!
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I wouldn’t expect any changes from any recreation manufacturer...getting currently sourced parts is hard enough, let alone having to get new molds, tooling, etc and sourcing new parts sounds impossible.
My dealer did send out an email last week telling folks to start ordering their 2022 boats now :eek:
When does 2022 pricing and option details typically come out? I would assume soon if 2022 production starts in July.Quote:
Originally Posted by brad460
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My dealer has been taking deposits on 22’s since January. They were sold out of 21 build slots since November.Quote:
Originally Posted by brad460
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Pretty much the same with my dealer. They said if I'd be waiting for delivery until at least September if I were someone who ordered now.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
onlyinboards is about to cross the 1000 boat threshold-in the wrong direction. 2 years ago it sat at 5500-although a chunk were not truly for sale and most of that has been cleaned up.
it's across the industry seems with tige/supreme/mb/skiers and the other smaller boat builders. wanna buy a bu/axis/mc? they seem to be everywhere for sale and those 3 brands make up exactly half of the inboards listings currently.
interesting times. I hope that the boat builders are stuffing cash away for a rainy day. at some point the economy will turn or in some spots the lakes will become over-saturated.
imagine having to call ahead for a launch time similar to a tee time :)
Lakes were busy last year and only going to get busier.Quote:
Originally Posted by sandm
Hoping this year the DNR will manning the launch sites again, that was a huge problem in Michigan last year, unmanned sites equaled log jammed boat ramps.
The keys to getting on the lakes near me.
1) midweek boating, I have a WiFi hotspot so I can work from the boat which is a bonus.
2) Get on the lake early on the weekends, last year I was often the only non fishing boat at the ramp, although I am sure the fishermen hated me.
3) I found a secret lake 1.2 miles from my house, on July 4th last year when all the lakes were packed, I was the only one on this 80 acre lake. It’s all deep and you can get a great surf run in, wakeboarding would be tricky.It has a nice launch and 4 trailer parking spots, so max 4 boats worst case.
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It is coming.......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F65rIh9YKBs
Has a Jurassic park feel to it!
New SL,
Sweet
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Kinda odd that the tower is partially down as the boat it backing out of slip.
New tower design?
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Looks like powered vertical adjustment capability instead of just folding... similar to the Nauti tower.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
The more I look at it, it looks like it’s just tipped forward a bit, but in the background there is a white fxone tower on a boatQuote:
Originally Posted by rhouse181
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I am glad I am not the only one that has watched it numerous times trying to analyze everything lol. It looks like it is an FXOne and is actually being folded up as it backs out...? or is it an optical illusion?Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...95996d4a11.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by TXSurf4
You can see it’s a tipped forward fxone, plus you can see the white fxone in background.
This has to be the SL, has the same style top deck kicked up depth after the tower mount area as the SA.
Looks like the added foot of boat is rear of the tower for a roomy cabin.
I don’t see “SL 4XX” emblems on the aft top deck.
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SL 550. Emblems are there, just gotta pause it on the right spot. Also someone else in the boat raising the tower back up.
Ya it definitely appears to be an SL and the FXOne tower. I am sure the emblems are there but with them being black on black it is tough to see. I think the tower being tilted makes it appear longer on the back end. Still a cool teaser though and not much if anything given away by this. I definitely like the feel they gave the video instead of blue skies and sunshine it has a very ominous feel or as someone else said a sort of Jurassic feel.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
Damn, you guys are good!
All new Swell Surf and autowake system, 4500lbs of subfloor ballast in hard tanks not bags and a little more dead rise would make for the perfect boat.
I thought peeps hated hard tanks due to cracking etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prospersigman
I did here new SL has 4000# subfloor like the SE.
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I bet that the marketing guys at SC are having a blast reading all the comments and speculations being made here! They are probably planning there next video release now and saying "ok man, let's put a blurry sticker on the side of the boat that's sort of shaped like a Malibu emblem and see what they say it is" LOL![emoji23]
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This is half the fun, trying to predict cryptic tease videos and leaks.
All in good fun, and SC gets free buzz.
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Having seen the new SL, it most definitely is the new SL!
Pics and description or it didn't happen!!
I agree whole heartedly!Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
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I got screen shots before they were removed on another forum, I’ll post them on 8/03/2021. I’ll say this, it looks like an SE and an SA had a kid.... really good looking boat! Some cool new interior options as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prospersigman
I have some as well from my dealer. Very good description there. I wonder if the online builder will reflect the new model on 8/3? We have an October slot but would like to start playing with options and colors soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vanfamkaiyen
Online builder always lags well behind the initial marketing release information. Usually at least a month or so behind it unfortunately.
My order (22 Mondo) was pushed to a 22 MY.
Base price has gone up almost $5k. Tower speakers will have lights in them now. Heater option is not available as SC cannot source them. That's all I've been able to discern based on my build sheets.
Will any Supra’s hit the 200k threshold this year? Malibu and Nautique are pushing 300k. Can’t believe these prices. The boats are beauties though.
Pretty easy to get an SE into the 200’s in 21.Quote:
Originally Posted by mgswake
SL and SA maxed out with 550’s broke into the 200’s with all the boxes checked in 21
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223k
https://germainemarine.com/boats/2022-supra-se/
this is the one that made me say wtf.....
https://germainemarine.com/boats/2022-moomba-craz/
These price increases are insane that's for sure. Retail cost on a Mojo has doubled in 8 years. Like 9% increase on average. At this rate, if I keep this boat for 8 years and look to buy another "comparable" Moomba boat then... I'd be looking at the mid $200's. This may be the last boat I can afford to buy... I know my salary isn't keeping pace with these increases! These annual increases far exceed other products from what I'm seeing too... especially things like vehicles and heavy machinery that have plenty of commodity concerns like steel, rubber and electronics. It is what it is, obviously there is still a market eager to buy!
I think we are going to see more of the truck pricing model in the next few years. Yeah MSRP might be 125k for it but in a bad year you can get 15-20% off with rebates and incentives and in good years (like now with more buyers than slots) your paying full msrp.Quote:
Originally Posted by uniwarking