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Sweet truck. It would make a good second truck as it only tows 8200lbs. I still would love to have it though.Quote:
Originally Posted by RC_Hinojosa
Yeah, it's not a truck for towing....it'd a pure play toy for me.
Or a mall crawler for 90% of the pussies out there that won't even get theirs dirty.
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Cute truck. I see a Raptor off road as much as I see an Outback pulling surfers. Ford has a much better vehicle suited for off road.
https://www.foxnews.com/auto/extreme...nco-race-rocks
Just shows how much suspension plays a part in towing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Isaguel
Because the raptor and TRX certainly have plenty of power to tow.
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Not really apples to apples. One is street legal, the other is obviously not.Quote:
Originally Posted by zabooda
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This dude was no pussy!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by RC_Hinojosa
https://youtu.be/JKQdlXvbWSU
Still cracks me up that he takes a $70k truck and sends it.
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Yeah, Raptor dropped the leaf springs and the rear now has a 5 link coil setup.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
Excellent for suspension travel, towing, not so much.
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Holy cow. Try explaining that to your insurance.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
This kid is crazy, but then again it makes him money.... But the TRX jumps too.
https://youtu.be/ny_LqF2Pets
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I used to do that stuff in my ‘84 Nissan p/u when I was in high school 30 years ago. After my 3rd set of motor mounts and 2nd front end rebuild, the price for that kind of jackassery the delta between fun and work wasn’t so good.
It will be interesting what Toyota brings to the table, huge ground to make up against the new F150 and Ram. Actually shocked Toyota is staying in the full size light duty market. They barely sell 100k per year compared to even 3rd place Ram at 568k and F150 even on the previous generation 2020 model at over 900k
GM knows they F’d up the interior of their new generation trucks, it truly is subpar. They are RAPIDLY redesigning the interior to try and catch up to Ford and Ram for MY2022.
MY2021 automotive sakes will be interesting due the massive semiconductor shortage caused by video “gamers” during the pandemic.
Auto manufacturers have to nearly stop production until the semiconductor makers can’t catch up with demand.
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Toyota needs to up their game, but they also have a niche market. Toyota owners are fairly loyal. What sells the Tundra besides the “manufactured in the US” BS is the price point that is $20k less than the others.
I hate the gas mileage mine gets. It truly sucks this day and age. But I also like that it didn’t cost $81k like the F150 I wanted. I love the F150 and the Rams, they drive like dreams, but I couldn’t get into one less than $65k at the time.
Plus my 1794 tundra interior and exterior match my boat so it was meant to be. I get lots of comments at each gas station I can’t pass while towing the boat.
I guess I didn’t realize Tundras were $20k less when equally optioned, that would definitely create a niche.
The 1794 edition always made me chuckle, they didn’t have motor vehicles in 1794.......lol
I think it actually means something about the land where the tundra plant is built was a ranch founded in 1794.
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I think you might want to revisit that 20k statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2in2out
basic 4x4's with no options and toyota is the cheapest by a grand. keeping in mind this is msrp before any "discounts" and I would bet the big3 will offer more incentives than toyota. toyota historically doesn't discount as much as american builders.
https://www.nadaguides.com/Cars/Comp..._416681_413952
now your example about ford/rams touching 65k. absolutely and the big3 are offering much more in terms of add-on's than toyota to push the price up there(think king ranch). compare an apples to apples optioned up truck AFTER discounts and it's not going to be a 20k spread.
toyota has a nice niche for tundras but even with a redesign or some groundbreaking new tech, they will not ever be in the same camp as the big3. tundra has kinda been the fat kid in the corner as they have spent all their truck research $$ on the taco making in the #1 midsize truck and has been for years.....
The Tundras are not equally optioned, so it is an apples and oranges comparison. But when your struggling for every dollar a Tundra meets the basic needs and then some.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
1794 is because of Tundra being produced in Texas. 1794 is the date of Texas independence. It was a marketing scheme to feed the egos of the politicians that fast-tracked the plant.
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery? Unless execution sucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
The 1794 is a wanna be King Ranch right down to the gaudy aplique on the tailgate and shiny wood trim from an '88 Lexus.
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1794 is most certainly NOT the date of Texas Independence. That would be March 2, 1836.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2in2out
I think the ranch theory may be more accurate.
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My mistake. That was what my wife was told by the sales associate when she asked. I didn't care, I never investigated the label just the features and options. But proven again I am a fool because I took someone's word. I wanted the Platinum, but the wife card got pulled and thrown on the table, so I got a 1794 for 4k less than the platinum I wanted because it had been on the lot for 4 weeks. A least it had cooled seats. Didn't help my wife is a Texan, so I had no say in the matter. Even though its my daily driver, its her truck. I plan to take the 1794 emblems off because I think they detract from the look.Quote:
Originally Posted by rdlangston13
One problem with the 1794 and Platinum trims, unlike the TRD trims, is to make them look good you're into wheels, tires, and lift and leveling components. Otherwise they are low clearance pavement queens that suck gas.
Watch Rip to Cabo on ESPN World of X Games. They use Raptors as chase trucks in some pretty rough conditions. They appear to be stock, but I can’t say that for sure. I think they are pretty badass, but damn, do something with those ugly ass 17” rims!Quote:
Originally Posted by zabooda
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