looking for a pair of Rev8s or 10s. Let me know thanks.
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looking for a pair of Rev8s or 10s. Let me know thanks.
Give the kicker KMTC9 or KMTC11 a look as well.
Likely cheaper than the used WS option brand new and they sound better.
I have 8” MTX towers that look and sound great!
A question for anyone that has multiple pairs of 10” towers: Do these cut into the headroom for anyone taller than Frodo Baggins? My 8” towers don’t leave a lot of headroom for anyone over 5’10”. A speaker hanging another 2” lower would be crazy.
I have looked at pair, but I have not heard much for feed back on their performance and what people are pushing them with to get them to scream.
Depends on where they hang. On my last boat no way I would have thrown an 11" speaker up there, but on my SA the FXone tower is nice and wide and the outer speakers are tucked up into the corners and not really in the way since they are directly over the seats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy2slow
That being said not sure I'd want 4 11" speakers up there that would be in the way as they creep toward the middle of the boat.
I have a pair I'm currently playing with (KMTC11) and highly recommend them.
I'm probably going to replace my JL 8.8's on the tower with the kickers.
They sound very good and are way more balanced than the Rev10, and project further than the 8.8s thanks to the horn
You will sell the JL8.8’s in a heartbeat too, especially the Supra specific ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by SONIC
Supra specific mounts
Supra specific downlighting
You really can’t buy these specific things aftermarket
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I might, I might just move them to the inside points on the tower. Just have to get the mounts made for the Kickers to test fit.
I thought MLA said the kickers were coming with new mounts now for some of the towers? supra not one? he told me they had mounts now for tige.
They do have a flat surface mount style, but the supra tower does not have a flat spot like a Tige or Bu G4. However, this new flat mount does open the door for mounting adapters to be designed for those towers without the flat mount location.Quote:
Originally Posted by sandm
ah. got it. makes complete sense.
Really? Ive only seen them for 1500 online.....without many reviews. MLA? got a review?Quote:
Originally Posted by SONIC
Check out this post on the Supra Moomba group on FB. Several people selling tower speakers on there, including Revs
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1786...74723889599756
mike spoke at length 3 or 4 months ago to me about the kicker speakers and was sold on them. kicker pricing doesn't seem to follow ws map pricing strategy and if you look around OR I would recommend reaching out to mike(mla) there are some discounts off msrp to be had. his price to us was less than rev's would have been. kicker has been around since before wetsounds was even thought of. great stuff and have used kicker for many years off and on.Quote:
Originally Posted by soonerbilly
I'd have them on my tower but they are still hlcd's and we wanted "conventional" speakers as we don't board so projection is not a selling feature for us.
I've been wanting get rid of a pair of my Rev 10's. Mounted on a Tige Tower. RGB lights. Great shape. No idea what they are worth, and I'm sure shipping would be a deal breaker. Anyways, let me know if you're interested. Maybe we can make it work.
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Sonic is your man for a review. He's even got them running against a leading 8.8 coaxial. Maybe he'll post his review on this forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by soonerbilly
I can't speak to a price but I can give a review on the sound.Quote:
Originally Posted by soonerbilly
Preface with everyone's ears are different so please no one get their panties in a wad:
I like high end audio and I like bass. My home setup is high end Klipsch, Marantz, tubes etc. I've got 200+ watts each running to my Klipsch and 6000 going to my subs. I've also built and sold speakers professionally so I (within reason of course) do know a thing or two about audio.
I have never cared for wetsounds rev series, I find them to be tuned/crossed/built/designed in a very unappealing way. They emphasize the higher frequencies too much. Marketing says it's to make the sound go further which is partially true but IMO it's at the expense of a decent balanced sound. They make me think someone really screwed with the equalizer when they are running flat. Shouty is the word I use, like someone with a high pitched voice is screaming next to you at your kids soccer game.
Enter the Kickers. They are still more mid-high forward than a nice coaxial (I've played them side by side with JL 8.8's)but have a more balanced sound overall than the wetsounds (In my opinion, obviously). They are still a horn loaded speaker so they can still be a bit shouty but it's much more reasonable.
I ran them in my home stereo for a few days for testing and they play down to 50hz pretty well so they have better bass than any other tower speaker I have tested.
They take 200 watts without flinching and are asking for more even at peak volume which is completely deafening in my house, had to put the wife and dogs outside for those tests.
I don't have them on the tower yet but I anticipate them to be the best of both worlds, they actually sound good AND they should project well to the surfer/rider.
I plan to replace a pair of JL 8.8's with them if that tells you anything.
it is refreshing to hear someone else say the same thing about them. having spent time on boats with rev's and last tige had 4 rev10's on it, they are WAY too bright for our taste.Quote:
Originally Posted by SONIC
but people still buy them like candy......
It’s The cooool factor man [emoji1690]Quote:
Originally Posted by sandm
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People buy them because they have a good reputation not because they sound good. They got that reputation from people who don't know anything about audio and think that the only thing that matters is loud.
When I was outfitting my tige all I heard was wetsounds wetsounds wetsounds. I didn't know any better so that's what I bought.
Now I know better lol
In their defense they got poplar with the wakeboard crowd and they are great for that, as long as you're the rider and not in the boat hahah.
Personally I don't care enough about the guy at the end of the rope to deafen myself in the process.
Wet sounds do carry a looooooooong distance
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This is my dilemma.
I didn’t love the REV10s on the boat I test drove, or hearing them in the showroom. However, the revos in cabin sounded much better than the base package (dealer had both options on the floor).
I went with the full upgrade sound system to get the revos and syn apps, but may switch our the towers.
I’ve read that you can tune the high output which will help, so we’ll see.
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Before we all pile on one particular brand of horn loaded compression driver for being harsh, aggressive, bright or shouty, its only fair to say, this is an issue that has plagued HLCD's since they first hit the marine wake tower. Its the nature of the beast. So all of them suffer from it to some degree or another.
However, with the release of the Rev series, Wet Sounds made huge strides in sound quality. Lets compare the old 8" pro-80 and new Rev-8, as their was never a 10" pro-10 and its never fair to compare a smaller driver to a larger.
The old pro series were rip your face off bright, like all the others. With the new Rev-8 came a new cross-over and new compression driver. Wet Sounds did an phenomenal job taming some of those notes that were most unpleasant to the ear, while not sacrificing the projection. If you ever got to hear them side by side, or at least knew how the old pro-80 sounded, then listened to the new rev-8, it was noticeable different. Even then, its still an HLCD. Here we are 10 or so years later, and some HLCD on the market, are still ear bleeding bright, just like the first HLCDs 15 years ago.
Enter the 10" rev-10. One easy way to combat the aggressive compression driver, is to add mid-bass surface are. The extra surface area adds balance to the whole setup, making it much better sounding overall. This is one big reason why Wet Sounds moved from away from the 6.5" and focused on an 8" 10" Its why Kicker has a 9" and 11". There is no substitution for surface area. With that said, Theres more to the Kicker HLCDs then just size. They put alot into the mid-bass and compression driver voice coils, the cross-over and horn flare design. This helps them be more pleasing to the ear close up, but still have the intended projection that an HLCD should.
Well said.Quote:
Originally Posted by MLA
Lots of people don't like horn speakers in the audiophile world either for the same reasons.
Speakers always have been and always will be personal preference.
There are many thousands of people out there running revs that love them and wouldn't trade them for the world. I'm just not one of them lol.
totally agree... I remember being taught many years ago and carried this lesson vocally when I was a sales manager for circuit city...Quote:
Originally Posted by SONIC
when shopping for audio, ALWAYS buy speakers first and everything else last and ALWAYS bring a demo tune so you can compare apples. most people will tend to buy flashy hu's/receivers and tons of power from the amp, run out of money and skimp on the speakers. saw this over and over when selling home audio.
This sounds very similar to discussions on performance car exhaust systems.
Or Harley exhaust......lol
Varying degrees of loudness and tone.
From soft/Quiet to full on being Ear F’d!!!!
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So here is my dilema....i have an older pair of Rev10s ( gotta be 8+ years old )that this year the midbass drivers finally cracked and will need to be replaced. I have not reached out to Wetsounds for replacement parts yet but plan to. I'll be buying SOMETHING soon. Anyone have an idea on the price of midbass driver replacements? If theyre only a couple hundred im sure id go that rout but if theyre 800+ id surely be interested in the kicker11s since the revs are a little bright harsh to me too. Got a price on them MLA?????
Where you located? PM me a price.....Im in Central Georgia.Quote:
Originally Posted by UNSTUCK
Let’s say 50% off their website price? The cheapest pair on the site is $1450. The led lights are $160. So $800 plus shipping? Looks like they weigh 15 pounds each plus the box and packing. Shipped from 84104.
How old are they?Quote:
Originally Posted by UNSTUCK
I'm the second owner of the boat. The boat is a 2017. I assume they came with the boat new, so 4 years oldish.
Bought some refurbished kicker KTM44 9" towers from Hifisound for 632 with tax too my door, wow these things are beasts!
Completely forgot about this thread.....still have them? emaile me at [email protected]
Anyone have know anyone selling either the kickers kmtc 11s or Rev 10s?
MLA got me a nice deal on a set of kicker kmtc11's......I'll let everyone know how they sound.......thanks Mike.