2020 SL or SE advice

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08-09-2019, 09:55 PM
ChuckB

2020 SL or SE advice

Hello, new to the forum. I recently test drove a 2019 Supra SL and loved everything about it. I think the 2020’s will be even better. My use will be 75% or more surfing with very little wake boarding and a little tubing with the kids. Any recommendations on SL vs SE from anybody who has been on both models? The SL seemed amazing but I know the SE has more ballast and weighs more. I don’t care about the extra foot because I will rarely have more than 10 in the boat. I would assume the SL will maneuver more easily? Thanks in advance.
08-10-2019, 09:12 AM
Ryann

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Originally Posted by ChuckB

Hello, new to the forum. I recently test drove a 2019 Supra SL and loved everything about it. I think the 2020’s will be even better. My use will be 75% or more surfing with very little wake boarding and a little tubing with the kids. Any recommendations on SL vs SE from anybody who has been on both models? The SL seemed amazing but I know the SE has more ballast and weighs more. I don’t care about the extra foot because I will rarely have more than 10 in the boat. I would assume the SL will maneuver more easily? Thanks in advance.

I recommend the SL (very little difference between ‘19 and ‘20). For surfing you don’t have to add as much extra ballast to get an amazing wave on the SL vs the SE. The SE takes another 400-600 pounds of steel bags to sink it to where the SL is.

The difference between the SL and SE if you don’t care about length is the bow. If the wide bow is your styling preference, go with that. I like the traditional bow of the SL, and my hunch is that you’ll burn less gas on the SL due to weight and the hull design for the bow. The SL seems to cut the water more than plow it in the SE.
08-10-2019, 11:03 AM
ChuckB

Thanks for the info. That’s what I was hoping to hear. How much extra weight do you add to your SL Ryann?
08-10-2019, 11:40 AM
MJHSupra

Depending on the 19 model, the 20s are getting the new trans package on the 400 and 450: 1.76:1

The 400 was a great on the 19s, but will be better now.

Agree with Ryann, bow difference in the style and more weight needed for the SE.

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08-10-2019, 12:35 PM
larry_arizona

Might want to take a peek at the 2020 SA.

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08-10-2019, 09:55 PM
Ryann

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Originally Posted by ChuckB

Thanks for the info. That’s what I was hoping to hear. How much extra weight do you add to your SL Ryann?

I do 600# lead. We just had 8 people on the boat and the wave is unreal powerful. When it’s just 2-3 in the boat, the wave is 95% of the slammed wave. That’s what I love most about the SL.

I didn’t think about the SA. If I were buying a 2020, I’d do a hard look at the SA. For me, it would be 2019 SL or 2020 SA. They moved the batteries to the in floor cooler on the 20 SL. whatttt!!??
08-10-2019, 10:02 PM
larry_arizona

Yup, in floor cooler is gone, shallow storage tray with a garbage can slot.

Batteries are under tray but......the helm storage is clean and impressive.

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08-10-2019, 10:58 PM
NewbFam5

Demo out on a used 2019 SL 400 today. Never been on a surf boat and I got up on the first try and road the wave, not very well, until I dove off the board from being tired. Loved the boat would like to test an SA as well but can't buy new. Same dealer has Bu and going to jump behind a 23 LSV this week so I can see what we like best. Have always liked the Supra brand more but it really comes down to $$'s. I think the used 2019 Bu is going to have a better price tag on it. But the point is, loved the Supra wave. We had an extra 700lbs lead, 3 adults and 2 kids and wave looked really good and it was fun to ride.
08-10-2019, 11:14 PM
NewbFam5

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Originally Posted by MJHSupra

Depending on the 19 model, the 20s are getting the new trans package on the 400 and 450: 1.76:1

The 400 was a great on the 19s, but will be better now.

Agree with Ryann, bow difference in the style and more weight needed for the SE.

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I thought the 450 was standard with the 1.76:1? Just the 400 on both the SA and SL had the 1.5:1. I tried to find the info listed but to no avail.
08-11-2019, 10:48 AM
Ryann

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Originally Posted by NewbFam5

I thought the 450 was standard with the 1.76:1? Just the 400 on both the SA and SL had the 1.5:1. I tried to find the info listed but to no avail.

Late year model 2019 with the 450 got the 1.76:1. 2020 the 400 got the 1.76:1.
08-11-2019, 02:45 PM
MJHSupra

^^^ This ^^^

2019 started with 1.50. Mid-year change confused many for the 450.
08-11-2019, 03:14 PM
MJHSupra

I assume SC wanted to do it's testing on this. Many stories and posts on other forums on prop shaft sheer - running heavy boats with big wheels.
I think it started with the Nautique (G) boats.
08-11-2019, 09:38 PM
ChuckB

Thanks for all the info. If I stay with the SL the 450 will be my pick for sure. Will go supercharged if I go with the SE.

Anybody surfed both the SL and SE?
08-12-2019, 12:24 PM
trace

Depends on what kind of space you need/want. The SE feels much larger inside compared to the SL. On my '19 SE 450, we are running 1000lbs of lead with a crew of 3 to 8. No idea on comparative fuel consumption, but I would guess the SL is better on fuel. The SE runs just fine on the 450 if your closer to sea level, my lake level is around 600.

Properly weighted and set up either boat absolutely kills in the wave department. I like the SE wave better, but others will say they like the SL wave better. Personal preference and all that.

Had a new axis owner on my boat this weekend, after a surf sesh he says "I thought I had the best wave I've ever ridden until I rode this stupid thing."
08-12-2019, 12:39 PM
dakota4ce

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Originally Posted by trace

Depends on what kind of space you need/want. The SE feels much larger inside compared to the SL. On my '19 SE 450, we are running 1000lbs of lead with a crew of 3 to 8. No idea on comparative fuel consumption, but I would guess the SL is better on fuel. The SE runs just fine on the 450 if your closer to sea level, my lake level is around 600.

Properly weighted and set up either boat absolutely kills in the wave department. I like the SE wave better, but others will say they like the SL wave better. Personal preference and all that.

Had a new axis owner on my boat this weekend, after a surf sesh he says "I thought I had the best wave I've ever ridden until I rode this stupid thing."

I think the waves are actually quite similar, honestly.

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08-12-2019, 06:12 PM
trace

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Originally Posted by dakota4ce

I think the waves are actually quite similar, honestly.

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Mitch,
I agree to a point. They are very similar. But there is a difference between them regarding how much hull is in the water and it does affect the shape to some extent. More to the point, I have my SE setup how I want it, so I prefer that wave. I have ridden carfanatic's (Brendan's) '18 SL and he has it setup how he likes it. So naturally I like my wave just a bit more because it's dialed in to my tastes and vice versa, but either boat set up properly will not disappoint anybody. Was why I led with Needs/Wants/crew size comments.

If you are making a reference to the last sentence, I said that was from an -->>AXIS<<-- owner. LOL
08-12-2019, 08:50 PM
ChuckB

Thanks for all the answers. I tend to second guess myself sometimes. Since the boat cost more than my first house, I want to get it right the first time.

Now the SA seems like a great option too. I may have to drive it too. Thanks again.
08-12-2019, 09:12 PM
dakota4ce

Can’t make a wrong choice. This SL has blown my skirt up big time. Just a sweet overall package.

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08-13-2019, 03:56 PM
MJHSupra

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Originally Posted by Ryann

Late year model 2019 with the 450 got the 1.76:1. 2020 the 400 got the 1.76:1.

Is that your red/black 2018 SL that Atl Marine is selling? I recall you had one for sale at one time.