I know the Skiers Choice Dealer meeting is this week.
Anyone know any details on new features or changes for Supra or Moomba for next year>?
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I know the Skiers Choice Dealer meeting is this week.
Anyone know any details on new features or changes for Supra or Moomba for next year>?
Ooo this is exciting!! I am subing.
Here is my wish list:
450 and 550 that does not require 92 or higher octane fuel
2:1 tranny
4500 lbs of sub floor ballast
redesigned driver's helm...the current one looks old and dated (see Nautique or the new Malibu if they need to copy something)
Combine these changes with the 2019 changes are there is no question who has the hottest boat on the market.
You’re going to go 0 for 4 is my guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prospersigman
The 2019 helm was a brand new design....
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Sorry...driver's seat not the dash, steering wheel, etc.
Maybe 1.76:1 tranny on the SL??
Ballast is maxed out unless they increase buoyancy, they won’t increase ballast and decrease passenger weight capacity.
To make power requires the fuel to support it.
You absolutely will not see a supercharged option without a high octane requirement. Boost requires octane to prevent detonation.
I agree a driver seat upgrade would be welcome.
SA styling is already the best of the 4 with the new SE borrowing the same look., I could see the new SA borrowing some in floor cooler/storage.
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For sure SA will get subfloor ballast...big advantage space wise not having bags in the rear lockers. In floor cooler is another really awesome feature that I can't live without now.
I could argue that SL styling is better and the extra foot makes a big difference in the main cabin area of the boat with storage galore, but I won't.
If the SA gets the SL subfloor and floor treatment, that will be tits.
I understand styling is a personal thing, to each their own.
SR,SA,SL,SE all serve their design purpose well.
Supra needs to fix the drivers seat/folded tower interference issue.
Do the 2019’s also require full down, full back,slight rotation to prevent ripping the seat?
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Being able to drive whilst folded would be neat
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You can, but it’s tricky and very temporaryQuote:
Originally Posted by dakota4ce
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Yes—I have the same issue with Makai and my old SE.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
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how funny that this is a moomba forum and most of the speculation so far revolves around supra products :)
ya, I know the supra forum is crickets. was that way back in '07 when i bought mine as well.
I'd like to see them be the first manufacturer to announce either a slight reduction in msrp or holding the line. that would be the biggest mews of all the boat builders imo especially if the economy takes a break as some suggest it might.
sandm, if it makes you feel better there’s a brand spankin new Moomba boat coming too... lol
But I won’t say anything else.
I’m hoping the new SA gets a 1.76 option with the 400 engine, at LEAST 4300# of subfloor. The cooler thing is how tall the SA will sit now with subfloor. Kinda like the monster SE.
I love the size of the SA, wouldn’t change a thing. That monster bow area is great for the kids, I’ve had 10 adults on there and didn’t feel cramped, but I was driving lol
Correct me if I am wrong, but if the ballast goes up 800#, then the 2400# passenger rating has to drop 800#?
Assuming same hull.
Honestly, 16 peeps in an SA is absurd, so if 4300# ballast and 1600# max crew is still 8-10 peeps which is perfect
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Yes, my buddy has a 2019 SL450 and you have to remember to put the drivers seat all the way down and back with the bolster down or it’s hitting the seat.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
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only if you want nmma certification.
look at any of the early 2010's mb's and you won't find a capacity plate.
Yeah I just got word also. New Moomba boat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Broke Pilot
I am gonna guess a 22.5' Makai style boat.
That’s a very specific guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by jason1973
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The max is 2 years old and already 22.5’
Craz is 22 and mojo 23..... which one is older?
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Your very warmQuote:
Originally Posted by jason1973
mojo is older. I could see that one getting the axe. the hull was modified not too long after it's initial introduction and wonder if SC is happy with it. with the "pro" moniker on the craz and not the mojo could be a sign.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
I still don't understand the mondo/helix as well. they are pretty similar boats in a smaller marketshare.
moomba is missing a 21ft boat. I could see the mondo going away and a 21ft/21.5ft replacement or mojo dead and a 23ft replacement that originates from a surf hull.
Getting warmer . . . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by sandm
Lots of 'buzz' in Knoxville this week.
so this new craft is going to be called the wasp? the hornet? hope not the mosquito. there's already been one of those.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJHSupra
I thought it was just going to be a refresh of a current model. A new boat would be sweet!! 2 in 2 years!!
I feel like the Mojo is a pretty big seller so I dont really forsee them getting ride of it (name a size). I could see a hull update for it. I could also see a new 20-21 ft boat to tap that market.
I may or may not have seen some things when I went to see my boat built lol. 2020 could be interesting... :cool:
I’d love to see Chill Tech vinyl make its way into Moomba. I went with a light color interior to try and keep the heat to a minimum and even it gets hot af and we aren’t even fully in the summer heat yet!
I asked Rick T. On FB about when the chill tech would trickle down to us low spenders on moomba. He said prob not till 21 [emoji2361]Quote:
Originally Posted by haknslash
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Yeah I didn't see it coming to Moomba 1 year after having it available for Supra. I am not a huge fan as I think in the Moomba line it will just keep driving prices up. Guess I should not complain though, our Mojo is gonna last forever haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrettLee3232
I agree on both lines from SC - keep the prices down each year.
For example, when the topic come ups about bow thrusters on wake boats. I get the bigger 25'+ are harder to move around when you are in a marina, but who needs that for 10K more? Billet is nice, but also adds to the bottom line if it's like a MC.
Plus, SC has to keep the options different on each boat line. They always have with different vinyls in the newer lines. Not sure if that was true 15+ years ago.
SC needs to be careful not to cross contaminate the two product lines, if they do, what makes each brand desirable ultimately gets lost.
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Side note......why is the 450 engine option $8400 on a Supra and $7150 on a Moomba....same engine........
I understand the Supra tax, but if the same options are going to be available on both lines, customers will eventually stop paying the Supra tax.
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Seems most of the same upgrades on a Moomba on more on a SupraQuote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
Never looked at that price difference. Differences being the different prop and the communications from the motor to the dash?
In 2019s, the seat will automatically lower itself and slide back when you start lowering the tower. Just have to have power on to the dash when you fold tower.Quote:
Supra needs to fix the drivers seat/folded tower interference issue.
You messing with me on this, or are you serious?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobius22
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I couldn’t resist haha
Yeah it’s from Drew Tinker so I believe it........lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Prospersigman
That is kick ass that it’s fixed. It is the type of mistake you hopefully make once when you rip that seat.
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I have been on my buddies 19 several times, yes, the seat auto lowers and slides to the rear, but you still have to rotate it the same as you do now. Still really cool. And amazing all the differences in just 1 model year from 18 to 19, and 20 will be even more.