I have a 2017 helix and I'm wondering what's the best option to drain the oil, pump it out thru the dipstick or access the drain tube. So my question is where is the drain tube located and how do I access it? Thanks appreciate it
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I have a 2017 helix and I'm wondering what's the best option to drain the oil, pump it out thru the dipstick or access the drain tube. So my question is where is the drain tube located and how do I access it? Thanks appreciate it
The drain tube should be attached to the top right-hand side of the head with a large oval shaped stainless steel ring
It’s practically impossible to miss
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Thanks Stazi you think much best bet is to pull it off the lift run the hose thru the drain plug and pump thru that drain hose or suck the oil thru the dipstick with a pump?
I suck it out that hose with a pump.Quote:
Originally Posted by jobu
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I've used Ford motor craft 5w 30 just like the manual says every time now I'm at 350 hours and I feel like I want to switch to a full synthetic like mobile 1.
Anyone have an opinion?
Full synthetic is ideal. Especially for heavily loaded engines like boat motors.
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The great oil debate.
All full synthetics are not created equal.
I am not a fan of Dexos 1 rated oils at all because they limit to low levels of ZDDP to prevent contamination to catalytic converters.
I am also not of fan of extremely high levels of ZDDP.
That said Mobil 1 dexos 1 is appx 650ppm of ZDDP (Mobil 1 is constantly changing this level also, it’s a moving target), which is ok for a low lift stock camshaft engine like a Raptor.
I much prefer 800-1100ppm levels such as Amsoil or Redline.
For a 5W30, Amsoil signature series 5w30 is 900ppm. I use this in my boat and daily drivers that are stock.
Not that anyone here is installing a higher lift camshaft but if they did, I would step it up to amsoil 5W30 diesel series 3000 at 1100 ppm ZDDP.
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I use the drain hose.... when I first bought mine I read a lot of people were getting their suction hose stuck inside the dipstick tube... also I never felt like sucking oil out through the dipstick would get as much of the old oil out as using the proper drain hose.
Here is my set up.... a 1/4” quick release male air hose adapter screws perfectly onto that drain hose and my oil extractor hose fits perfectly over that adapter... pretty slick set up.
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That is my setup.
Only difference is I have a clear tube going from the hose to the pump.
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Originally Posted by MJHSupra
So do I..... ; ) it’s filled with oil in this picture
What extraction pump you guys prefer?
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MityVac has been good this far to me...
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Mounted a 12v Northern Tool Sprayer pump on a small plastic bucket.
Never extract oil from the dipstick, only the drain hose. Ask me how i know....haha
How do you know?
Betcha it got stuck in the tube!Quote:
Originally Posted by twisters6
Mine was the $84 dollar one from Harbor Freight.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
Works great! I use if for engine oil, V drive, and transmission fluid changes
Good idea, I got a couple intercooler pumps laying around similar to the jabsco’s, thrown it on a 5 gallon bucket and viola.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mjhknox
I like the mityvac pneumatic but most wont hold 7+ qts that the Raptors hold.
If the oil is warm/hot, do you need an extractor if you put the hose through the transom plug and gravity drain it?
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Just relying on gravity will take hours.....do yourself a favor and get a pump. I have to stop and start mine to emptying the catch can along the way, because it too won’t hold the entire sumps-worth of oil, but it works great to get as much out as quickly as possible.
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My big MityVac holds the whole pan worth.
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What model?Quote:
Originally Posted by dakota4ce
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7201 I think—2.3 gallon capacity.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
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You got it. It was stuck in the dip stick tube for 2 days with me trying EVERYTHING to get it out. I read everything i could find on the internet and everyone said the same thing....Don't ever do it. Finally i was able to get it to come out, still not sure how but it was out and i learned my lesson..Quote:
Originally Posted by Tylerrnemt
Do the newer boats come w/a drain hose installed? My '02 Supra had one, but I'm not sure if my '16 Craz does.
The new raptors have a hose on the starboard side of engine.
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Thanks so much for this suggestion. My winterization oil change took a fraction of what it normally did by using a1/4” quick release male air hose adapter. This is the tip of the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tylerrnemt
Ditto. Came here for the sole purpose of finding out what threads were on the drain hose fitting. Now to order a pump...
Is a pump necessary if I have the water strainer/flush kit? I'm not in a hurry, figured I could run the boat in my driveway and get it up to operating temp, then let oil drain. Knowing it'll take an hour or so.
Any other reason for a pump?
If the drain hose will fit through the bail plug hole, no.
On my last boat, I'd pull the hose out, zip tie it to the trailer with a drain pan underneath, and just let it drain. It took 5-10 min cold.
I see some people are routing the drain hose right through the bottom boat plug hole. Has anyone had to put an extension on their oil drain hose to get this to work?
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On my 07 Supra I run the oil drain hose thru the drain plug, on top of the wake plate, and suction from there.
Looks like the last pic post #8.
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How does everyone get the boat up to temp in the driveway? Suction cup device to the bottom of the boat or can a garden hose screw directly into a location to allow for the water flow? 2019 Moomba Helix for reference.
Fake a lake or fab up a hose straight into the v-drive
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Do moombas come with these?
https://www.indmar.com/service-products/strainer-pro/
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I’m not sure if they are standard now but it was an option on 2018 Moomba’s. I checked that box for ease of running on a hose and winterizing with RV antifreeze.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
Anyone know where the drain hose is on a 2014 Indmar 345 hp surf engine?
It was also an option in 2019, not standard. So glad I chose it. Makes it way easier than having to rig something up.Quote:
Originally Posted by z28ke
OP, if you don’t have this strainer option, like was mentioned before you’ll have to either use a fake a lake, or rig up a valve/hose right before the v-drive. I was never a fan of the fake a lake so I had the latter in previous boats.
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Or spend $78 and add the strainer pro.
https://inboardonline.com/strainer-pro-499003/
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my dealer told me they are standard now.
Should be, I love it on my boat.Quote:
Originally Posted by 996scott
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