Any advice on ballast hose

I have a reversible ballad system I just finished installing. One issue is we ran short on hosing and one pumps hose has a link in it. I have 1 extra piece about 2 feet long. Is there something I can use to connect these 2 pieces Togethor with parts I can get from home depot or lowes? Or is there 1" hose I can buy from home depot that I can substitute the wakemakers hose with.

I was originally thinking a 3" lengthof brass pipe that I can slip the two pieces over and then clamp to it.

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Wakmakers makes a connector if you want to wait for shipping.


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Originally Posted by smorris7

Wakmakers makes a connector if you want to wait for shipping.


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Trying to get it today

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Go to the auto parts store (NAPA, oreilly etc) and get some rubber 1" heater hose. Probly way cheaper than a Home Depot and you can buy it by the foot!

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Go to the auto parts store (NAPA, oreilly etc) and get some rubber 1" heater hose. Probly way cheaper than a Home Depot and you can buy it by the foot!

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Dang just called summit racing, there's a store right around the corner 60 bucks for 10 feet haha will try a couple other stores.

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Dang just called summit racing, there's a store right around the corner 60 bucks for 10 feet haha will try a couple other stores.

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Largest anyone in the area has is 3/4 inch might be trying home depot

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Home Depot or a plumbing store might have a plastic connector. It's worth a try

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Home Depot or a plumbing store might have a plastic connector. It's worth a try

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Do y'all not think a shirt length of brass pipe would work?

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Do y'all not think a shirt length of brass pipe would work?

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Yes that would certainly work.


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I would not use any other hose other then a coil reinforced hose, which I hope is what was supplied originally. Odd that it kinked, takes some significant force to get that hose to collapse or kink. Should be able to find a plastic 1" barbed hose splice at most any hardware store to cut out the kink and splice the hose back. This will not effect the flow rate.

Home depot or Lowes has reinforced hose by the foot.

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Home depot or Lowes has reinforced hose by the foot.

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Where would it be? I looked everywhere

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If he's referring to the clear vinyl hose with woven mesh molded in, it won't work. It designed to reinforce for positive pressure, not a vacuum that the impeller pumps draw.

Flex- PVC is not "hose" but I've heard of it being used. Seems like it be tough to compress it down with A clamp as it's not meant to.

agree with MLA the hose has to be the coil re enforced. wakemakers or flow rite has it , plus you can get an elbow barbed or straight piece in the irrigation or the plumbing section.

Irrigation supply places sell the 1" hose.

Anything like this?




https://www.walmart.com/ip/Drive-Med...&wl13=&veh=sem

Without even getting into the specs of cpap hose, the biggest issue that I see, is that style of hose has the coils on the outside of the hose, rather then encases in the hose. This present two issue. Hose durability and clamping. Shields makes a marine hose thats basically the same style. Only lasts a few seasons in a boat. The exposed raised coil ribs make it hard for a clamp to sit flat and make a good compression.

Stick with the better coil reinforced hose found at most marine supply houses.

Flow-Rite does not stock the 1" hose. The 1.125" will not clamp down on the 1" barb of the jabsco or johnson pumps.

Thought flo rite use to .. my bad

Just .75" and 1.125" as thats technically what size their fittings are.

Right type of hose for sure, just not the right size.

I've heard of people using "spa hose" or "hot tub" hose. I've not used it myself so can't really vouch for it but it looks like our local Menards carries it in 1" inside diameter. Looks very similar to my factory ballast hose.

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Also check out "Flexible non-metallic electrical conduit" I think most major hardware stores carry it. It's advertised as liquid tight typically and looks very similar to the spa hose and my factory ballast hose.

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The clear vinyl hose with the braided reinforcement works great for us. It's true that it's not going to withstand negative pressure/vacuum but I don't see that being a concern. If you use an open vent (no check valve) you won't get a vacuum so it's a non-issue. Even if you do use check valves, the bags are much, much more flexible and will flatten first. This stuff is pretty stiff and would probably hold up anyways but even if it did get sucked down, it would bounce right back when the pump is turned off. Pros: cheap and readily available.

Cons: everything stated that wont happen, does and will. Based on experience. Built me first ballast system using it, nearly 12 years ago, hose failed the first season and that was using aerator pumps. A self priming impeller ballast pump is always drawing a vacuum on the inlet side, and has a positive pressure on the outlet. Any turns or bends with that hose, has to be an extremely long radius, or the hose will kink/collapse. And no, it will not bounce right back. A good hot summer day and that kink will stay for good.

Not being argumentative based on opinion or theory, but sharing experience. Thats all.

The PVC-FLEXPIPE hose sold at irrigation supply shops is the same hose that the SC factory stocks.....at least it was the same hose used in my 2009