2006 LSV wave

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07-18-2017, 11:46 PM
MGX

2006 LSV wave

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Best wave so far, we were able to go rope less. Had 5 people in the boat and nobody above 170lbs. We ran ballast:
Surfside 750
Opposite 400 ish
Ski locker full
IBS 700
250lbs bag on the back seat towards surf side
Speed was faster when my son was surfing, 11.7 and we had it at 10.7 for me in that pic but tried different speeds. Surf plate around ¾ to full up. I have a Nauticurl that helps a great deal.
Any suggestions for an even better wave?

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07-19-2017, 08:26 AM
kaneboats

Add a suckgate deployed on the off-side at the rear and add a couple hundred pounds to the off-side as well. You will be blown away.
07-19-2017, 10:27 AM
MGX

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Originally Posted by kaneboats

Add a suckgate deployed on the off-side at the rear and add a couple hundred pounds to the off-side as well. You will be blown away.

The Nauticurl is my shaper, helps a lot. I'll fill both sides evenly next time and see, thanks for the reply.
07-19-2017, 11:47 AM
kaneboats

Oops, I missed that. I thought it looked pretty clean. I would not fill your off side all the way. About 75-80% should be good but you may adjust up a bit if you have that extra 250 on the surf side. You still want a little lean to the surf side for the cleanest wave with the most push.
07-19-2017, 12:26 PM
MGX

No worries, thanks for the advice. Much appreciated!

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07-19-2017, 01:08 PM
brain_rinse

1100 surfside rear, ~750 opposite, center and IBS full, passengers all surfside, plate up, suckgate, 10.5-11 mph GPS verified speed
07-19-2017, 01:13 PM
parrothd

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Originally Posted by brain_rinse

1100 surfside rear, ~750 opposite, center and IBS full, passengers all surfside, plate up, suckgate, 10.5-11 mph GPS verified speed

1100 surfside rear, 1000 opposite, 400lbs under seats, 100lbs moveable lead, center and IBS full, passengers all surfside, plate up, suckgate, 11.5.. :)
07-19-2017, 01:14 PM
brain_rinse

Quote:

Originally Posted by parrothd

1100 surfside rear, 1000 opposite, 400lbs under seats, 100lbs moveable lead, center and IBS full, passengers all surfside, plate up, suckgate, 11.5.. :)

I like your style!

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07-19-2017, 01:16 PM
parrothd

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Originally Posted by brain_rinse

I like your style!

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Oil and Gas companies love us... lol
07-19-2017, 01:20 PM
MichiganMoomba

Just about the same setup on my 2010 LSV 1100 SS, 600 opposite, center and IBS full, plate up, stazigate 11mph.
07-19-2017, 01:31 PM
sivs1

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Originally Posted by parrothd

Oil and Gas companies love us... lol

I feel like I burned through way more gas in the LSV then I do now with the SA.
07-19-2017, 01:43 PM
wolfeman131

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Originally Posted by sivs1

I feel like I burned through way more gas in the LSV then I do now with the SA.

if you had the smaller motor, you probably turned higher RPM's to move about the same (or more) total weight.
07-19-2017, 01:49 PM
kaneboats

Prop could make all the difference too.
08-02-2017, 05:56 PM
GW@vineyardlake

I have an o8 LSV with a similar set-up and with all the weight in the back, I can only get a decent wave with my wakeplate down, so it seems odd to me that you get a good wave with the wakeplate up.
08-02-2017, 06:52 PM
Leebo

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Originally Posted by GW@vineyardlake

I have an o8 LSV with a similar set-up and with all the weight in the back, I can only get a decent wave with my wakeplate down, so it seems odd to me that you get a good wave with the wakeplate up.

More speed and/or more bow weight means you can run less wakeplate.
08-08-2017, 03:51 PM
MGX

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Originally Posted by kaneboats

Prop could make all the difference too.

I'm thinking if we upgrade to heavier rear bags that will be he next step. The boat struggles to keep a higher speed when we are loaded more that 5-6 adults and current bags full. Getting a decent wave currently but with more bag weight I'm not sure we'll be able to get 10-11 as it seems we get decent waves at those speeds.

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08-08-2017, 06:12 PM
twkoehn

If you add more ballast weight, you will definitely need a new prop. That's where I'm at right now as well.
08-08-2017, 06:33 PM
MGX

[QUOTE=twkoehn;313516]If you add more ballast weight, you will definitely need a new prop. That's where I'm at right now as well.[/

I'm going to see how the boat reacts with the extra weight. Did you go 900 or 1100?

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08-08-2017, 07:40 PM
twkoehn

I added 1100s to each rear locker and also waited to see how the boat handled the extra weight. It didn't take long to realize I was "under propped", especially after reading what engine nut wrote about weighting your boat and not being able to get to the recommended RPM at wide open throttle (WOT). If you haven't read it, you should. It's in the Wakeboarding/wakeskating thread and is posted as "Don't kill your Engine!". This is a must read IMO when adding ballast to your boat.
08-08-2017, 09:25 PM
MGX

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Originally Posted by twkoehn

I added 1100s to each rear locker and also waited to see how the boat handled the extra weight. It didn't take long to realize I was "under propped", especially after reading what engine nut wrote about weighting your boat and not being able to get to the recommended RPM at wide open throttle (WOT). If you haven't read it, you should. It's in the Wakeboarding/wakeskating thread and is posted as "Don't kill your Engine!". This is a must read IMO when adding ballast to your boat.

Thanks for the tip!

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08-12-2017, 11:20 PM
mgsaad

I have a 2013 LSV and have never been able to get a good surf wake. I recently bought a Delta wakeshaper by Mission but still not having great success. Does anyone have one of these? Where do you position it on the LSV and how do you set up the ballast in conjunction with the Delta?
Thanks.
08-16-2017, 10:13 AM
NoleAlum

Quote:

Originally Posted by MGX

I'm thinking if we upgrade to heavier rear bags that will be he next step. The boat struggles to keep a higher speed when we are loaded more that 5-6 adults and current bags full. Getting a decent wave currently but with more bag weight I'm not sure we'll be able to get 10-11 as it seems we get decent waves at those speeds.

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MGX- I have 2012 LSV and recently upgraded to the NautiCurl. Love the wave it makes now compared to my homemade suckgate. I have 1100s in rear, 400 in center and 750 IBS. Usually don't fill all the way in rears but 80% on surf side and 60-70% on off-side for regular surfers. Seems to like more even with goofy.

We played around with position of NautiCurl this weekend and boat did not like it when it was too low on hull. Never had trouble getting up to speed but did when it was low. Just FYI. I put it on the 2nd tier of the side about 2 feet from back of boat. I have "splash" stickers so have to put it where all sticker or no sticker. Will try and take picture of where we found the position to be the best.

Would upgrade to 1100 since you don't have to fill them all the way up but can't fill 900s over 900!

Good luck.
08-16-2017, 01:20 PM
MGX

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Originally Posted by NoleAlum

MGX- I have 2012 LSV and recently upgraded to the NautiCurl. Love the wave it makes now compared to my homemade suckgate. I have 1100s in rear, 400 in center and 750 IBS. Usually don't fill all the way in rears but 80% on surf side and 60-70% on off-side for regular surfers. Seems to like more even with goofy.

We played around with position of NautiCurl this weekend and boat did not like it when it was too low on hull. Never had trouble getting up to speed but did when it was low. Just FYI. I put it on the 2nd tier of the side about 2 feet from back of boat. I have "splash" stickers so have to put it where all sticker or no sticker. Will try and take picture of where we found the position to be the best.

Would upgrade to 1100 since you don't have to fill them all the way up but can't fill 900s over 900!

Good luck.

Hi, looking forward to the pic. I've been putting mine as far back and as low as I can. I'll try forward and up to compare. I have a friend with an X15 that bought one too and he's blown away.

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08-16-2017, 01:50 PM
BT_48170

I usually put mine about 8-12 inches forward of the back corner/start of swim deck and just under water vertically when floating/stopped.
08-16-2017, 02:41 PM
MGX

Quote:

Originally Posted by BT_48170

I usually put mine about 8-12 inches forward of the back corner/start of swim deck and just under water vertically when floating/stopped.

A Nauticurl?

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08-17-2017, 07:14 AM
BT_48170

No I made mine.
08-29-2017, 12:49 AM
DDNorCal

I would definitely add more weight and if you are having trouble with the weight, change out the prop. I can run 3000+ lbs and 5-7 people with no problem.
08-29-2017, 11:28 AM
MGX

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Originally Posted by DDNorCal

I would definitely add more weight and if you are having trouble with the weight, change out the prop. I can run 3000+ lbs and 5-7 people with no problem.

You running the stock prop? I don't know what is on mine but I can only assume it's stock considering the lack of other optional equipment.
08-29-2017, 08:24 PM
twkoehn

After adding ballast, I found my boat to be underpowered and put and ACME 1847 on my boat. Call JT at Nettle props and he will hook you up with the right prop for your boat.
08-31-2017, 03:34 PM
RatbagRacing

2006 LSV - no IBS - what do you have 'underseat' for 400lb - lead, or small bags?

Quote:

Originally Posted by parrothd

1100 surfside rear, 1000 opposite, 400lbs under seats, 100lbs moveable lead, center and IBS full, passengers all surfside, plate up, suckgate, 11.5.. :)

Hey Parrothead,
just getting started with surfing a recently acquired '06 LSV with no IBS, or plate.

I do have 2 1100's (Ronix eight.3 w/ telescope top for dumping...nice option for us 12v pumpers), and without any front or center weight (just 2 passengers about 350 total), i had a legit/surfable wake for the under 175lb'ers, but i'm 190 and need a bit more as I improve my skills. Ran about 800 surfside, 650 opposite (more weight in rear didn't work without anything in center or front, but plan on getting to your 1100/1000 range if i can find the balance.
Swell 2.0

I'm going to add a 350 to the front/bow (underseat/bow bag) -- is that what you mean by your "400 lb under seats" - or do you mean rear seats too?

I assume your "IBS full" is about 400-450lbs total? where is that located exactly? center/floor - or with some in rear/built in?

And finally -- I can't find the "Don't Kill Your Engine" thread mentioned below in my searches -- anyone have a link or can help me dial in the search?

thanks to you - and everyone here - for the knowledge i'm gaining. it's been a lot less trial and error (and $) getting this boat where I want it to be.
08-31-2017, 04:17 PM
parrothd

Quote:

Originally Posted by RatbagRacing

Hey Parrothead,
just getting started with surfing a recently acquired '06 LSV with no IBS, or plate.

I do have 2 1100's (Ronix eight.3 w/ telescope top for dumping...nice option for us 12v pumpers), and without any front or center weight (just 2 passengers about 350 total), i had a legit/surfable wake for the under 175lb'ers, but i'm 190 and need a bit more as I improve my skills. Ran about 800 surfside, 650 opposite (more weight in rear didn't work without anything in center or front, but plan on getting to your 1100/1000 range if i can find the balance.
Swell 2.0

I'm going to add a 350 to the front/bow (underseat/bow bag) -- is that what you mean by your "400 lb under seats" - or do you mean rear seats too?

I assume your "IBS full" is about 400-450lbs total? where is that located exactly? center/floor - or with some in rear/built in?

And finally -- I can't find the "Don't Kill Your Engine" thread mentioned below in my searches -- anyone have a link or can help me dial in the search?

thanks to you - and everyone here - for the knowledge i'm gaining. it's been a lot less trial and error (and $) getting this boat where I want it to be.

400lbs under the seat where the cooler is. The inside is located under the front seats bow around 600lbs.
09-01-2017, 11:16 AM
RatbagRacing

Quote:

Originally Posted by parrothd

400lbs under the seat where the cooler is. The inside is located under the front seats bow around 600lbs.

the 400lbs under seat/where cooler 'was'....is that lead (or similar) - a bag you're filling too? again, thanks for the help
09-01-2017, 12:17 PM
parrothd

Quote:

Originally Posted by RatbagRacing

the 400lbs under seat/where cooler 'was'....is that lead (or similar) - a bag you're filling too? again, thanks for the help

I removed the cooler and have a seperate ballast bag under those seats. Also you can buy lead bags, I have 100lbs to move around to dail in the wave..
09-06-2017, 06:17 PM
Jeepers

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgsaad

I have a 2013 LSV and have never been able to get a good surf wake. I recently bought a Delta wakeshaper by Mission but still not having great success. Does anyone have one of these? Where do you position it on the LSV and how do you set up the ballast in conjunction with the Delta?
Thanks.

I use one of these on my 08 LSV. It's been awesome. I installed the "gate" part on the back and install it as low and back to the transom as you can. Regular side sure equal weighting all ballast full. Goofy side starboard full and port 75-80%. Speed 11.7

I didn't have an IBS when i first started using it so I had to keep my wakeplate nearly 100% deployed.

1100s each rear, 500 ski locker and now 500 bow.

Speed is the trick with the delta.

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