Moomba V. medium waves and rough water

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03-11-2010, 06:26 PM
Adsonic

Moomba V. medium waves and rough water

Hello all, I've been trying to get some feedback on Yamaha and wakeboard and ended up with the conclusion that it might not be a good idea to get a jet boat in the first place. After additional searching I ended up looking at used Moomba, but I'm kinda concerned how it handles in waves and rough water.

I tried searching but all I could find is lakes and more lakes, or I might have picked the wrong phrase to do the search. In any case, I would like to know what Moomba model would handle extremely well in rough water to the point of not getting slapped on every wave and then hating the day I made the choice of getting this type of boats in the first place. I don't know why but I'm begging to think of Moomba boats like sport cars with fine tuned suspensions, extremely stable at smooth roads but crapy at rough ones.

Thanks in advance,
Adsonic
03-11-2010, 06:47 PM
mmandley

Most wake board boat will handle similar to one another. Its like you said, sport cars, trucks, limos, they all get you from point A to B but its the manor at which they do it.

XLV would be the best at ruff water because its the biggest.

LSV and OBV are not as good in ruff water, they can handle it and take the waves up to a point but they all have low noses and arnt designed as a ruff water boat.

What would help more in this is what types of places are you planning on boating in? What is ruff water to you?

To me white caps and 1ft chop is very ruff, i only go to lakes, reservoirs and the local river, when i know its a low wind day.
03-11-2010, 07:01 PM
brain_rinse

Are you planning to buy a boat without test driving?
03-11-2010, 07:05 PM
Adsonic

Thanks for the reply, we usually get on a normal day between 2 to 4 feet waves, and the boat will run in open water not too close to the shore.
03-11-2010, 07:06 PM
Adsonic

Quote:

Originally Posted by brain_rinse

Are you planning to buy a boat without test driving?

Planning on buying it from the US and shipping it over here in Kuwait. It fit nicely inside a small container.

Plus, I didn't see one anywhere here to test it.
03-11-2010, 07:11 PM
brain_rinse

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adsonic

Thanks for the reply, we usually get on a normal day between 2 to 4 feet waves, and the boat will run in open water not too close to the shore.

Sorry, but you need to keep shopping.
03-11-2010, 07:17 PM
brain_rinse

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed G

nothing wrong with buying a Moomba without test driving it.

Many of us on these boards have done it.

It bought my 1st one solely on Moomba's reputation for best bang for the buck. A test ride was never even mentioned when I 1st met the salesperson.

I'm now on my 2nd Moomba and am convinced I never made a mistake.

I have the 2009 Outback V. This is definetly not the boat for rough water! It will take the pounding of rough water and cut thru rough waves like a knife thru butter, but you will end up taking water over the bow and flooding everything

Like others have said - look towards the XLV

Ed, he's said he's looking used.
03-11-2010, 07:19 PM
Adsonic

Quote:

Originally Posted by brain_rinse

Sorry, but you need to keep shopping.

Other alternatives would be highly appreciated
03-11-2010, 07:22 PM
brain_rinse

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adsonic

Other alternatives would be highly appreciated

You'll need to look to an entirely different class of boats. Watersports boats just aren't designed for the kind of open water you're describing (with few, very expensive exceptions.) I'll leave it to those familiar with open water boats to guide you towards some makes/models that might handle 2-4' waves.
03-11-2010, 07:22 PM
Adsonic

Quote:

Originally Posted by brain_rinse

Ed, he's said he's looking used.

Necessary steps will be taken to insure unpleasant surprises will be at minimum

Bought 3 cars and 2 bikes from the US, didn't had any problems besides the normal wear and tear.
03-11-2010, 07:23 PM
brain_rinse

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adsonic

Necessary steps will be taken to insure unpleasant surprises will be at minimum

Bought 3 cars and 2 bikes from the US, didn't had any problems besides the normal wear and tear.

Glad you've had good luck so far, but you're playing with fire.
03-11-2010, 07:50 PM
maxpower220

I don't recall too many lakes in Kuwait (or Iraq or Bahrain); lots of sand though.
03-11-2010, 08:34 PM
sanity

Quote:

I don't recall too many lakes in Kuwait (or Iraq or Bahrain);

Sounds like he needs it for the ocean.

If so, I would not be looking at a Moomba or a Yamaha. I don't know what you should be looking for, but open-bow sport boats are typically used on lakes, rivers and small bays. Regular 4 foot swells are not going to be fun in a sub-24 foot boat.

How about something like this:
http://www.powerboatlistings.com/cigarette/
03-11-2010, 08:40 PM
Adsonic

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed G

Hell, you be an idiot to buy a used Moomba without test driving it!

Thank you for your feedback
03-11-2010, 08:42 PM
Hoopskier

Not an expert by any means in this area, Just throwing out a model. How about a Mastercraft X-80. At 28' and over 6,000 lbs, probably better than any moomba just due to its massive length. Downside is the massive price tag. There are used ones out there though.

Are you looking to ski/wakeboard in 2-4 waves?
03-11-2010, 08:57 PM
sanity

Quote:

How about a Mastercraft X-80.

Wow. Yacht certified? Twin V-8s!? Its a monster.
03-11-2010, 09:04 PM
Adsonic

Quote:

Originally Posted by sanity

Sounds like he needs it for the ocean.

If so, I would not be looking at a Moomba or a Yamaha. I don't know what you should be looking for, but open-bow sport boats are typically used on lakes, rivers and small bays. Regular 4 foot swells are not going to be fun in a sub-24 foot boat.

How about something like this:
http://www.powerboatlistings.com/cigarette/

I used to have a 25" boat that was molded from a Scarab design that had 2X225 screamers, but it was a pain to pull anything. It needs speed to settle and get its nose down, but then it would be too fast for pulling anyone.

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-...30363_2075.jpg

I want something for wakeboarding.

In good days we get this:

http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/p...um/3405338.jpg

But most of the time we get this:

http://www.freekuwait.org/vb/uploaded/5_01221933423.jpg

Just to be clear, the 2-4 foot wave the boat will only see when going to one of the islands (about 25 minutes ride), but the wakeboarding will be done in weather like the two above pics.
03-11-2010, 09:56 PM
kaneboats

That's really a tough one. The XLV might just do it but even that one is made for inland use, not at sea. I wonder if a small cruiser might be the best thing to look for.