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Went to the scales today with the boat and new truck and somehow my boat gained about 600 lbs. not sure how or maybe these things have a large margin of error? Two years ago when I weight the boat and trailer was 6900. Today it was 7480.
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What do you think about a 5000# hitch now?Quote:
Originally Posted by rdlangston13
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I think whether it’s weight carrying or weight distributing the hitch still sees the same tongue weight so I think it’s fine as long as I’m not exceeding my rear axle weight rating (which I’m not), I think it’s fine.
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Not true. The bars on the WD hitch pull the hitch up, reducing the weight on the hitch itself, and transferring it to the front axle.Quote:
Originally Posted by rdlangston13
Whether it’s transferred to the front axle or not it irrelevant. It takes weight off of the rear axle and transfers it to the front but the hitch is still see the weight, if anything it increases the weight on the hitch because now it’s holding the tongue weight and all the spring tension from the bars
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Your truck, your boat, your liability, your choice. It will hold until it doesn’t.
Just wanted to inform you. Good luck to you.
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Every time I see this conversation on any forum it always goes something like this, there never seems to be a definitive answer and it always seems like the chicken or the egg...
It’s confusing no doubt. My favorite is when truck owner asks the dealer and they say it’s ok. The dealer is about the worst source of information and the last one to accept liability when a hitch fails.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prospersigman
SAE J2807 is the spec. I suggest researching it.
Again, $180 is worth piece of mind.
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Peace of mind, not the iron maiden record piece of mind lol....
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There is a reason that the rating is different. The bars cause the hitch to pull up on the receiver, to an extent, hence NOT carrying the same weight. Imagine you had a receiver resting on a scale. You put a broomstick in and push down - that's regular, weight-carrying hitch, and increases the weight on the scale. Now pull up on the broomstick. That's weight-distributing, and reduces weight on the scale.Quote:
Originally Posted by rdlangston13
But like Larry said, your truck, your decision, your liability. A better hitch is simply cheap insurance.
I feel like that’s a way over simplification of the forces at work here. If that were the case then the tow vehicle would end up lighter with the trailer than without which does not happen. What a weight distribution hitch does is reduce the vertical pivot in the ball which allows tongue weight to be shared among all 3 axles however the rear axle of the tow vehicle still carries most of the tongue weight but all of the added weight to the vehicle is supported by the hitch still. There is no way to take a 1160 lb tongue weight and get the trailer axles to support 660 lbs of it. It would be cool to see someone test all of our theories with scales though
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Of course that's an oversimplification, but it's an illustration of what it doesQuote:
Originally Posted by rdlangston13
It's been done, many times. Take a truck and trailer to the scales with a WD hitch. Weigh the rear axle with the WD bars disconnected, and then connect them and see the difference. It shifts some weight to the front axle, and the rear axle weight, as well as the weight felt by the hitch, is lessened. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4f85732dfc.jpg
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this has come up a lot recently on a couple forums.
my only learn has been:
buy a chevy you are good.
buy a ford and you are replacing the hitch.
no mention of dodge so crawl under and look. replace if only 5k..
There was only 3 inside I seen. The GM strike has delayed production
Was a little bored during quarantine and decided to check out this forscan thing.
Made a few basic changes to my F150, I’m
still a beginner at this. If you have used it post up what changes you made. I did the following.
1. Added the digital temperatures above the analog gauges for engine coolant and transmission
2. Enabled the Lincoln auto fold mirrors
3. Enabled the fog lights to stay on with the high beams
4. Disabled the double honk when you get out of the truck with key in your pocket while it’s running
5. Added heated/cooled seat controls to the SYNC3 home screen
6. Changed the lane change signal from 3 to 5 flashes
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Come on no Toyota’s in there too? I guess because they don’t break��Quote:
Originally Posted by sandm
Probably more because we have to tow stuffQuote:
Originally Posted by Branden967
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Let's see your Yota.Quote:
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Lol! I gotta download tapatalk, I’m having the upload issue...Quote:
Originally Posted by rdlangston13
Here’s an oldie.
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I see your iforce V8 and raise you 935 ft lbs of torque [emoji441]
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Nice looking rig you have there. I really like those mud flaps...do they hang off the bumper or the trailer tongue?
Thanks.
The rock tamer flaps are on adjustable arms attached to the hitch.
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Not quite 935 ftlbs but it’s not bad for sixer at 470 lol.
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Veronica must work in the coronavirus field. Throw some numbers together and through out a general comment.
Had to post to be on top with The Ford haha
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Probably need to trade it in soon. I had a 2wd Tundra before and pulled a 2003 moomba lsv with no problems ever, so I didnt think I needed 4wd. Last time at the boat ramp it was struggling getting grip to pull the boat up the ramp. It took several attempts and burnouts to finally get up. I guess there is a big difference between pulling the Max and an old lsv [emoji50].Attachment 28512
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2wd trucks on a boat ramp would freak me out.
When the algae gets built up on the ramp and your rear wheels get on the wet algae, there is nothing that will prevent your whole rig from sliding into the lake once you get out of the truck.
When the ramp gets slick, I engage the front axle to hold the truck.
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When the ramp gets slick, throw some sand on it.
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Needed something to haul a boat and haul ass.
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Hellcat?Quote:
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I wish...just a SRT. Bought it before the track hawk was available.
How do you like it? We've been looking at the SRT for a while - same reasons. Want something fun but need a ute.Quote:
Originally Posted by bteeter
My ole sled still hanging in there. Looks tiny with the Max behind it lol. I think my next truck will be the new F250 with the 7.3 gasser in it. I think that would pull the boat noooo problemo :D
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SRT has been tons of fun. Best option I could find that could do family duty, haul a boat and still be a hoot to drive. Bought mine new but you can get a nice deal on used one with a few years on it. I still get big grins using launch mode!Quote:
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We have very similar taste
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The old ecoboost seems to do just fine pulling the Moomba. Never noticed a hunger for power. Little things got plenty of torque. I still have concerns about long term durability of a turbo engine vs the naturaly aspirated V8, but so far so good. Hasn't let me down. I wont worry bout it until start approaching 100k+ miles. I take good care of it and outside of hauling the boat, I do not drive it hard, so I expect it to last for my needs. Don't think I would get it if it was a truck used for work such as regular heavy loads/construction/landscaping business, and that sort of thing. Bur for the weekend warrior its more than adequate and I'm pretty happy with it.
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Our gen1 in our expeditions has 97,000 miles I think with about 10% of that pulling our 7,000 lbs Mojo and no issues really. We did have a water pump get replaced under warranty but that was it.Quote:
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Haha yea we do!Quote:
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Bought a new tow rig.... then got a slip :confused:
Either way, needed bigger shoes (35"s). Really was just so impressed with the Ram after test driving the big three (sorry Tundra... too old... and coming from a Tacoma).
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Before (32" stockers)
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Y'all would have laughed... and cringed... hard when I was launching my 7k lb boat/trailer combo with my 2006 non-tow-packaged 4 pinned (no brake control) Tacoma 2wd a couple times a week last year. Waaaay over the limits (Don't worry, used the wife's escalade for anything over those 200 yards .... braking with the tacoma even under 5 mph was legit scary, especially on tar chip). Granted I was going all of 200 yards from storage to dock. Learned how to force that open diff to transfer torque quite well. Only problem, it always had to be me... hard to teach a buddy on the fly. Ram pulls it great to the dealer when rarely needed, kind of sad I do not tow that often as the surround cameras are fantastic on new trucks.