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The reinforcements between a class 3 and 4 hitch on a f150 seem easy to add for someone looking to add piece of mind and strengthen where a class 3 would begin to fail.
https://www.f150forum.com/f82/2012-m...-hitch-314932/
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It appears everyone of the Ford hitches in that thread is only a class 3. 500# tongue and 5000# weight carrying is class 3 and what is important in our boat applications.Quote:
Originally Posted by beat taco
Nobody tows a wakeboat with weight distribution
The interesting post in that thread was the guy who was towing over the 500/5000# rating and his hitch failed.
Word is that Ford has corrected the 2019+ hitch and made a class 4 (1000/10000) available. Next time I am at the dealer, I will snap a picture of the hitch tag.
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Things like this tick me off about Ford. They seem to cut corners all the time with stuff like this. It’s a TRUCK. They tout the eco boosts best in class towing capacity and then they install that hitch. Lol
We almost bought an explorer sport as another family car, until we learned that Ford cut corners there too. When the IIHS started doing small overlap tests they only did it on the driver’s side. So Ford only reinforced that side of the car. When the passenger side small overlap was released, the Explorer failed miserably. Look it up on YouTube. It’s bad.
I’ve been an EMT for only a short time but I’ve seen a couple of these types of crashes, and one was fatal (for the front passenger). I get that companies cut corners to maximize profit, but when they do it with safety (which includes towing) I can’t look past that.
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This is a post I made on our jet boat forum for how I plan to tackle the stupid factory class III F150 tow hitch. Hopefully this will help someone else out on here and save them from having to spend a lot of money on the extra hitch that sits below the factory Class III hitch and you also won’t have the weird dual receiver look on your truck. I will post more pics once my new Class IV hitch arrives but here is how I plan to do it from my post on the jet boaters forum....
“Ok after going out in the pouring rain I was determined to see if it is indeed possible transform my tow package F150 bumper to a non-tow package F150 bumper so that I could buy and use a Curt Class IV hitch. And the answer is yessir!!!
Check it out. After looking at the Curt Class IV hitch for an F150 without factory tow package I watched their video and noticed the differences between their bumper and the one that comes on a factory tow package F150. My truck use the lower 3rd bolt where as a non-tow package bumper just uses the middle and upper bolts. This means their bracket is a little shorter than mine which leaves the slot in the frame exposed to mount an aftermarket hitch. The other mounting location they use is up by the top of the spare tire which is fine on either truck package. It's the factory tow hitch and extra bracket material that needs to go...and it's certainly possible. Below I've marked up some screenshots from videos and pics of my truck to explain how I'm going to do this in case anyone else wants or has to do this.
F150 without tow package. He is showing in the etrailer video where you will insert their supplier fasteners once you have the hitch in place.....
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Once you remove the rear bumper you will need to remove the metal bumper caps on each side. This will give you good access to the hitch and brackets where I will cut....
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Below are pics of my truck and factory tow package bumper. I've marked where I will continue cutting the bumper bracket so that is is shaped like a non-factory tow package F150's bumper bracket. Remove bumper like above and cut along this line on both driver and passenger side brackets. After that I should be able to install the Curt hitch. Then I will reverse the steps of dissembling the bumper caps to the bumper and then mount the newly modified bumper bracket assembly to the frame of the truck.”
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Let us know how it goes. I have a 2015 and am going through the same dilemma...
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Finally convinced my wife that she needs a truck so she can pull the boat and I’ll pull the fifth wheel. It should match pretty well with the Vivid Orange [emoji51]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...d0658445ac.jpg
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Your orange Mojo Pro is gonna look wicked behind that truck [emoji109]Quote:
Originally Posted by The General
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You need some stars and bars on the roof and a big 01 in the doors......yeeeeeeeeehawwwwwQuote:
Originally Posted by The General
Cool rig[emoji106]
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You need some stars and bars on the roof and a big 01 in the doors......yeeeeeeeeehawwwww
Cool rig[emoji106]
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Larry, she already asked for the 01’s on the side and her middle name is Lee [emoji51]
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Love those special edition color rams. That orange is good. My next toy is gonna be a Go Mango Challenger if I ever finish these stupid F bodies. Lol
Shouldn't be too much longer and I'll have some detailed pics of the install and modification I'll do. I ordered from etrailers last Thursday evening and it was already in my state the next day. Good prices, Super fast and FREE shipping! It arrives tomorrow so I'll likely do the install next weekend and will report back.Quote:
Originally Posted by wired1236
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Cool. I posted this on another forum. I went this way instead. No cutting. Basically just taking off the old hitch and putting on the bumper mount with no hitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by haknslash
“2. Remove the stock bumper/hitch assembly and purchase a new assembly w/o the stock hitch (Ford p/n HL3Z17D826D) , basically taking my stock hitch off then and buy the Curt (or similar) class IV hitch and install them both. Pros being it will look and function on the truck a lot better. Cons, more $$ and more work.
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Only cost me $158.00
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I asked my local dales guy about it. For some reason they won’t swap the hitch for us here at the dealership (if I bought a truck from him. We’re still considering options).
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Pics of the new hitch and wiring adapter...
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I'm aware I could have bought the extra Ford bracketd but I think I can save myself the extra $158 and just cut off what I don't need and then remount the bumper. Nobody would know the wiser unless they looked under my truck and noticed the cut edge. A little black paint and primer should blend it all in. It should function the same as a truck without factory tow package.Quote:
Originally Posted by wired1236
Sorry for the delay on getting an updates with the hitch upgrade. Unfortunately yesterday we had to put down our 14 year old family dog and it has been so hard grieving and trying to adjust to life again. :(
I figured this was the perfect time to install the hitch and help keep my mind busy. I've got a bunch of pics I'll post in a more formal thread of its own to be easier for others to search and find in the future but here are some progress pics of removing the rear bumper, cutting off the factory tow hitch and temporarily mounting the Curt Class IV hitch to ensure everything will work. Happy to report this mod will work fine just as I had hoped!
http://i.imgur.com/UpcBz9p.jpg
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Very sorry to hear about your dog. Always a tough thing to do. Just remember all the amazing days your dog gave to you and your family. They are amazing family members!!!
Glad your hitch project is successful
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Thanks Larry for the kind words!!! Keeping myself busy has helped a lot. I hate every time I walk in my house I expect to see or hear him coming to greet me but I know it will get a little easier each day. Too many good memories to remember with him!Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
BTW thanks again for reaching out to me on the hitch. Never would have crossed my mind otherwise.
Got the hitch all installed, torqued and ready to go. Now I just need to order the heavy duty draw bar and the truck will be ready for the new boat! Please excuse the filthy truck lol.
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Finally can contribute a photo. This was the day I hauled the Moomba home from TX (4.5 hrs) not really clean, but the newest photo I have.
'17 3.5, AFE CAI, 5* tune, King shocks & coilovers, bunch of aftermarket stuff.
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King Coilovers are expensive high end stuff. Do you actually use your truck offroad? What kinda wheelin' do you do with it? I can't imagine spending money on King for a street queen...Quote:
Originally Posted by BrentC5Z
It gets used. Just tow the boat and go play in it. Still has under 13,000 miles.Quote:
Originally Posted by trayson
After this pic was taken, I pulled the Fox stuff and went with King. Compression adjustable remote reservoirs, Baja Kits controls arms, Deavers, etc.
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Damn Son! No street queen there. Well done, well done indeed!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by BrentC5Z
He just said...Street Queen...I got your F'ing Street Queen right here!!!:-D
That's funny!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Prospersigman
Hope it didn't come across like that.
Tows much better than the ram.
Picked up a new to me tow vehicle today. 2018 F-150 Lariat FX4 with the max tow package (3.55 gears, oil cooler, trans cooler, 36 gal fuel tank, 3.5 EB).
Had to drive to Hammond, LA to get her but she is back in TX now I’m eager to hitch up to Mojo and see how she does. Our first gen EB in the expedition does great and the 2nd gen has 10 more hp and 70 more lb/ft of torque and a 10 speed so I am expecting it to do even better. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...128e75af6c.jpg
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Nice upgrade from the old RAM!
Sweet truck, got two of the same (2018 and 2019) just fix that factory hitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by rdlangston13
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Mounting issues? Rating?Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
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Tow rating is only 5000# https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...20f4d905e5.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by MJHSupra
Rumor was they fixed this problem on the 2019’s but my 19 has the same hitch.
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It’s a little odd because it’s listed as a class IV on the window sticker. I wonder if they just have a generic rating because the lower model trucks are limited to this rating. In any case, I’m not going to worry about it.
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Nope, it’s a well known Ford issue. Truck can tow 13k but the hitch is only rated to 5k.Quote:
Originally Posted by rdlangston13
I just didn’t want to risk it with an 8000# rig
So I added a 10k hitch. Shitty part is the stock hitch is integral to the bumper.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a91812825f.jpg
Just not sure on owner liability if the hitch broke and owner was found to have overloaded the factory hitch. I can’t afford paying for my wrecked boat when insurance is rejected.
$150 10k hitch is WELL worth it. It masks well with a hitch plug and some dirt lol.
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The hitch is rated for more than 5k. It’s 5k weight carrying but it says 11,600 weight distributing. And the only truck that rated for 13k is the single cab 4x2.
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Found my next tow rig at sema yesterday. Complete with a full on wet sound system.. ... :)
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Yes but boats are weight-carrying.Quote:
Originally Posted by rdlangston13
Boats are pulled at the weight carrying rating.Quote:
Originally Posted by rdlangston13
You can’t use a weight distributing hitch on a boat trailer as you can’t back up with a WD hitch. WD hitches are used on travel trailers and construction trailers.
I was in denial when I got my 2018, but the engineer in me took over.
$180 fix https://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Hit...leID=201833000
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That truck looks awful!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by sandm
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Nice pic. Ha ha. Yikes!Quote:
Originally Posted by sandm
Did you go?
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we went and killed a few hours on friday afternoon to look at all the outside stuffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJHSupra
ford had a huge display and had a couple raptors running hot laps around a small course doing a jump and some "drifting". wanted a ride in the 2020 gt500 but that wasn't happening. 105k msrp.. yikes...
GT500 at $105k+ or C8Z51 at $65k, I know what I am picking.....Quote:
Originally Posted by sandm
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that 105k price is all the boxes checked. vette should be in the low80's once you check a few boxes. stang should be 80-90 for most models. if you could pick up a gt500 for msrp I bet you could flip it for a few bills as dealer markups will have most of them in triple numbers.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
3 years later when you are tired of either one I'll take the 'stang. resale on that model should pwn any corvette but the zr1.
did try to find a 2020 vette outside but not a single one to be had. kinda disappointed that a new release like that wouldn't have had a few floating around but they must have all been inside.
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