Mask Mandate

The fragility and masculine insensitivity of the middle aged male in this country is frustrating. How many of them can’t seem to lift the mask above the nose, or keep the mask on two steps in a store amazes me. For those men that wear you masks diligently, you are men above all others.

But middle class women don’t get a pass either. Their self righteousness and indignation whenever you give them a sideways look when they storm into Starbucks maskless, rush to the counter to get their mobile order, then sit at a table gabbing on speakerphone for an hour maskless, while never drinking their latte amazes me. But I do notice many more women taking mask wearing seriously as a whole then men.

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Originally Posted by dakota4ce

I am trying and I have no clue what you’re meaning here.

I don’t think anyone anywhere is interested in dying or having loved ones die.


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It means take one for the team and do everthing you can to help everyone else and everyone will benefit, aka the pandemic will be over sooner.

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Originally Posted by rdlangston13

So quick question on immunity since I’m admittedly ignorant. Would continued exposure to the virus after you have had it and still in the stage where you have enough antibodies to be immune prolong the immunity? Like if you gave your body a reason to keep producing antibodies would it do it or would it not help?


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So far, the evidence says no.

Your T-cells, or memory cells, encode the antibody response, and reduces antibody production as part of a scaled response. A threshold level of antibodies will combat cellular reproduction of the virus rna. Exposure during this period will not initiate a new response from the T cells. Over time, antibody production reduces creating the environment for a new opportunistic infection. Then the response of the T cells initiated a new cascade of antibodies.

Part of the problem lies in the variants and overlaps in the RNA sequencing. Each successive infection should produce a more efficient response. The variants disrupt this efficient process, causing the memory cells to edit the response.

If it could be known the variant and response that would come with continued low viral exposure, then that would be an opportunity. But the RNA variants are so many, and each individualized response is different this is an ineffective methodology called herd immunity.

The common cold is a corona virus. It has many variants, but frequent exposure to it does nothing for immunity except for the short period antibodies exist.

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Originally Posted by 2in2out

So far, the evidence says no.

Your T-cells, or memory cells, encode the antibody response, and reduces antibody production as part of a scaled response. A threshold level of antibodies will combat cellular reproduction of the virus rna. Exposure during this period will not initiate a new response from the T cells. Over time, antibody production reduces creating the environment for a new opportunistic infection. Then the response of the T cells initiated a new cascade of antibodies.

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So what’s the point of a vaccine then?


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Originally Posted by larry_arizona

So what’s the point of a vaccine then?


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DING DING DING DING!!

Great question! This son of a bitch is NEVER going away. Maybe partial yearly protection from a vaccine that manages to isolate the latest and most popular strains. But mutations and variations will guarantee you’re going to be hearing about COVID for a flipping long time.

Good news is, it’s not super duper deadly, but it is super duper contagious unfortunately.

Eventually it’s mechanisms will be figured out to a large degree, and therapeutics will improve dramatically. That’s the actual long term solution to getting back to normal. But it’s going to be killing vulnerable people for a long time.

A decent vaccine will help us bridge the gap between these states more safely.


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Originally Posted by 2in2out

The fragility and masculine insensitivity of the middle aged male in this country is frustrating. How many of them can’t seem to lift the mask above the nose, or keep the mask on two steps in a store amazes me. For those men that wear you masks diligently, you are men above all others.

But middle class women don’t get a pass either. Their self righteousness and indignation whenever you give them a sideways look when they storm into Starbucks maskless, rush to the counter to get their mobile order, then sit at a table gabbing on speakerphone for an hour maskless, while never drinking their latte amazes me. But I do notice many more women taking mask wearing seriously as a whole then men.

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Where do you live? Is it a mask mandate area?


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Originally Posted by larry_arizona

So what’s the point of a vaccine then?


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The vaccine presents an ability to boast the antibody response by having inactivated virus recombinating RNA and encoding to the T cells increasing antibodies over a longer period of time. Currently the Pfizer vaccination is projected to give sustained immunity to the original virus for 1-2 yrs, much like influenza vaccinations. As the variants get isolated, they can be added to the inoculation. As production is scaled, and variants identified and isolated, inoculations can be developed buying possible immunity. It isn’t the holy grail yet, but it’s helpful to reduce spread, along with all the other prevention measures.

Yes, Nevada has been under mask mandate since April. Local mandates have been around for longer. Enforcement is uneven, and I’ve found that management and staff at most locations is spineless at enforcement of even there own policies.

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Originally Posted by 2in2out

Yes, Nevada has been under mask mandate since April. Local mandates have been around for longer. Enforcement is uneven, and I’ve found that management and staff at most locations is spineless at enforcement of even there own policies.

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Fascinating. Our state debates a mask mandate daily. We do not have one—local or otherwise.

Yet, even if we do, people still won’t follow it.

As suspected. There’s a portion of folks that will not follow, mandate or not.

Private social gatherings, open bars and restaurants, and our open schools are causing spread.


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Originally Posted by dakota4ce

Fascinating. Our state debates a mask mandate daily. We do not have one—local or otherwise.

Yet, even if we do, people still won’t follow it.

As suspected. There’s a portion of folks that will not follow, mandate or not.

Private social gatherings, open bars and restaurants, and our open schools are causing spread.


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Nevada saw steady, but marginal increases with the opening of bars, restaurants, and casinos. When schools opened, then everything spiked. This is result of cooler weather, holidays, schools opening, and people recalled back to work.

Poorer populations are seeing significant surges, but other economic classes are seeing surges too.