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Wave looks long and clean.
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Wave looks long and clean.
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be interested to see how these do when some people get them out to ride.
Went back to the site over lunch today and may have noticed something that hasn't been mentioned: No mention of the Mojo Pro!
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Originally Posted by Gearhead
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Originally Posted by korey
I noticed that yesterday to. Thought the Mondo would get discontinued not the mojo pro 🧐
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It will be money. They don’t mess around in that category anymore!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gearhead
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I saw the mojo pro on the site still, and see they added a Craz pro
The Mojo Pro is still on the site as an '18, when you look at the '19 models, it is gone. They went to a Craz Pro with flow 3.0 as they sell a whole lot more of the 22' boats. Those shots in the water are downtown Knoxville, they must have been hungry for some Calhoun's, lol
I also assume it has to do with price. Don’t want the mojo pro to be same or more than the Makai.Quote:
Originally Posted by KnoxMojo
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Also, I had suggested before that it looks like ALL of the models are getting the enw screen, but the video for the Max clearly shows the old (2018) screen. The Craz and Craz pro clearly show the updated screen though.
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I didn't screenshot the base Craz, but it showed the same.
I was a little aftaid that this would be a Mojo killer - and i guess it still could be once it proves itself..
Why would this be a Mojo killer? Doubt they are going to just go from 22' to 24'6" in that line. Yeah, the base line Max is 22'6", but it isn't a replacement for the MojoQuote:
little aftaid that this would be a Mojo killer - and i guess it still could be once it proves itself
Yeah you're probably right - I keep forgetting it's 2-1/2' bigger, not really in the same league!
It is not only 2'6" longer, it also has a 102" beam compared to the Mojo 100". I do think the Mojo is due for a redesign next year and could end up looking very similar to the Makai.
Looks great but hard to fit in many garages. You take this exact boat and make it a 21', wack off $8-10k ($3k per pineal foot lol) and you've got a huge market there! Basically a moomba version of the SR with subfloor ballast.
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They are wanting to compete with the a24 in my opinion. This boat would be much better fit and finish. One thing you can’t complain about an a24 is the wave. So If they produce a boat that’s cheaper and has a better surf wave, they’ve got it licked in the big boat department.Quote:
Originally Posted by chester
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If you put the side storage trays in a Max you have the same subfloor ballast setup.Quote:
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That is the boat I would buy. Or, add the tower and walk through to the max and I would get that. Not interested in wave, and 24-25 ft is way to much boat for me. But, for surfers I think this boat looks amazing!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by chester
I saw Drew Tinker refer to it as "concealed ballast" on Facebook so opposed to sub floor...
That is much more accurate. There is nothing subfloor about rear bags and plastic trays. Still better than nothing. With most boats you add piggy backs and lose that storage anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by korey
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Getting talk with and have Drew go over everything at the Dallas boat show was the best part about going.Quote:
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I was hopeful that subfloor meant possible piggybacks. Because, I don’t care what anyone says, 4000# is not enough to crush it in a 24.5 boat. I have one—and we rock 5300#. She delivers at that point!Quote:
Originally Posted by jcarter20
I am sure stock is very good, but who wants that?! 🤣
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Same here. Almost 6000# in my 247 lsv. After riding like that, I’d be really really impressed if a stock wave had as much push and lengthQuote:
Originally Posted by dakota4ce
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Hey Guys. I will try and clarify the confusion on the "sub-floor" ballast. You are correct that the rear ballast is similar to the Max. It is a rear bag with a storage bin over it. In the Makai, the storage bin is screwed down AND has a pie plate so you can access the vent if needed. In the rear, there really isn't a floor as the bags are basically on the hull, so the rear ballast being called "subfloor" or "concealed" is really a matter of preference. BUT, in the Makai, there are additional "mid ship" bags that are truly "sub-floor" that are covered by a "fake floor". Each bag holds 400lbs on each side of the cabin and that is what we really meant as "sub-floor". Also, the entire front ballast is below the floor level so it is also "sub-floor". On the Max, you could add mid ship bags, but we don't have a fake floor that is designed to cover it, but if you got creative, I am sure you could also make a "fake floor" for it. In case you didn't know, we made a running change mid 2018 and the current Max rear bags have fittings in case you want to add your own "mid ship" ballast.
Hope that clears up the difference on the Makai ballast and how it differs from the Max.
As to the dash, the Mondo, Craz, Mojo, and Makai all receive the new 7" touch screen dash as standard. It does have a new interface and I think as you guys use it, you will really love the changes. And for those interested, on the 7" screen when you have AutoWake on, you can go to the home screen and still see ballast levels as AutoWake is working. I know several had requested that in the past.
For 2019, we also have AutoWake 3 that adds Multisensor technology. Basically we added our patented "draft sensor" technology to add ballast sensor that sense how much water is really in the bag. Once the sensor sees the bags are full, it automatically turns off the ballast pumps and resets the gauges to full. This prevents the boat from "over filling" the bag which can eventually lead to walls popping in, fittings popping off, or other ballast related issues.
The Helix and Max continue to use the 480 color screen that all the other models used in 2018. The great news there is the 2019 software WILL work backwards compatible on the 2018 and 2017 models. It also has the ballast sensor technology in it. The 480 does NOT have the same user interface as the 7 inch screen, but we are trying to keep the technology moving forward so if you want, you can eventually purchase ballast sensors and update software and get a 2018 model to have the AutoWake 3 technology.
If you have additional questions, let us know. We will try to update you as we can but we are a little busy trying to make all the new 2019 models...
AND......
On the "sub-floor" ballast, if you want you can easily remove the mid ship fake floors. Once you remove them, you could change the 400lb bag with a custom bag and realistically you could probably put a 800lb bag on each side if you don't want storage. If you did that, then now you are talking about 4800lb stock ballast. Add 6 or 7 passengers at an average of 175lbs each and now you are talking about almost 6000lbs displacement. I can tell you first hand that at 5000lbs displacement, the Makai wave is awesome. We have run it up to 6500lbs in testing and it was unreal. I really can't wait to hear some of the reviews once these boats get to the dealers....
Thanks for the info! Can you explain ballast setup and bag sizes? 400lb each side midship? What’s in the rear, center & front? Thanks!Quote:
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The rear bags are 1000lbs each. The mid ship bags are 400 each. The front is 1200lbs. So total you have 2000 in rear, 800 in middle, 1200 in front.
Thanks!!! The boat you tested with 6k did it have the 575 in it? I wonder how well this boat does weighted down with the puny 400.Quote:
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Nope, the R&D boat that I am still running only has the 400 engine and wake prop. With AutoLaunch, I can still get up to about 6500lbs on plane for wakeboarding. For surfing, the 400 with wake prop has been all I needed. We also tested the boat with the new 450 (that includes a 1.75 transmission). If you are at altitude, then the 450 with gear reduction might be a better option. But if you are not at altitude, then I think you will be impressed with the 400.
You can also contact your local dealer for their feedback. The white boat you have seen in some of the posts is the R&D boat and at the dealer demos it had the 400 with wakeprop on it and several times we were REALLY loaded down with people. Most of the dealers were there and they can give you their feedback...
Thanks! That’s awesome news [emoji51]Quote:
Originally Posted by goose
Is it trues this boat is only 5200lbs? Seems light to me but what the hell do I know [emoji1381]*♂️
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That's the dry weight. That doesn't include fuel, batteries or anything else you might add.
Goose is there a link to where I could get some of the hinges from the makai side seats and add them to my max?
goose, what RPM are you running in that 400 with the wake prop? is it the 2775?
If this ballast draft sensor can really be retrofitted to fit older models I will be stoked! I constantly find that the timers, over the course of a day, continually need to be reset and this would solve that hassle! Way to go Skiers Choice!Quote:
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I have been thinking about doing this on my Mojo also!Quote:
Originally Posted by Chopper d
https://greatlakesskipper.com/supra-...black-set-of-2
I think these are pretty much the same thing that Supra uses.
My SE is something like 5600 and the Makai is missing some of the fiberglass and trim that I have....so that seems about right on.Quote:
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For some odd reason I thought my Mondo and trailer was like 6300lbs [emoji23]Quote:
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Trailers are damn heavy these days though!Quote:
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Great info as always Goose. Thank you!!!
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