Good looking rig. Does is sag in the back after it was lowered and you are pulling the boat?Quote:
Originally Posted by z28ke
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Good looking rig. Does is sag in the back after it was lowered and you are pulling the boat?Quote:
Originally Posted by z28ke
Thank you sir! I haven’t hooked up the boat yet but it shouldn’t with the factory air ride/auto leveling suspension. I made some shorter air ride sensor links to prevent it from raising it back to the stock height after putting in the drop springs. I’ll likely have to make a few adjustments to the length of the links to get it perfect with the boat hooked up, but once it’s right I won’t have to mess with it again.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJHSupra
I knew those rigs had the auto system in them, that is one reason I asked.
Sounds like you have it all worked out.
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No boat yet, about to pull the trigger. Knowing that, we picked this up in November. We go about 6 miles from our driveway to local lake/river...5.3L will do just fine. We made sure to get the HD trailering package.
Need to tint front windows still...
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Now that the wife has to pull the boat occasionally back and forth to LBC we upgraded the 15 yukon.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...c4a56f7528.jpg
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^ Nice! How is she liking it? Our Navigator is getting tired and we’ve started weighing options.
We were looking hard at a used 18 expedition max limited but ended up in the platinum esv. I was obviously sold on the EcoBoost for towing and could've gone either way. In the end the Cadillac won her over. We'll have to wait and see how it tows but it should be a nice upgrade over the shorter wheelbase 5.3 it replaced. I get tired of waiting for her up hills, I wish I could just hook the boat to the back of my fifth wheel!Quote:
Originally Posted by bergermaister
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Beautiful Escalade. Can never go wrong with black!
And how cool would it be to have a gooseneck wake boat trailer?!? The powerboat guys do it mainly out of necessity, but if it was an option I’d take it!
Making progress this winter, boat ordered...windows tinted on the tow vehicle https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b080c788fe.jpg
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Love it! We drove the Expedition and Navigator and preferred them in almost every way. But we had same thoughts about motor.Quote:
Originally Posted by beat taco
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Wow y'all have some really nice trucks! Make my little old 2010 F150 FX2 feel so lonely :D
Any of you guys with 2WD trucks towing with 305/40R22's? If so what psi are you putting your tires at? I usually run lower psi for a smoother ride and better wear. They do fine pulling our little 19' Yamaha boat but wondering how they will do with the much heavier Max and tandem axle trailer.
Here's mine (disregard fuel door missing heh)...
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Nice truck!!! Despite F150’s and their underrated bumper integrated class3 5000# max factory hitches......lolQuote:
Originally Posted by haknslash
5000# doesn’t pull too many legit wake boats
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Yea I was surprised when you let me know. So much for slick marketing they do huh? :D
Thanks about the truck. I bought it in 2012 with 23k miles on it. About to roll 189k miles and it has been a good truck despite a replaced tranny at 49k. Thankfully it was covered under warranty. Needs a new O2 sensor replaced before the boat comes in. Unfortunately it's the worst side and one to replace so I am just going to let an exhaust shop do it. I have no idea how the bank 1 passenger side O2 was ever installed!
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2015 Yukon. We have REALLY enjoyed this vehicle and it pulls the boat very well, although we don’t pull it very far and don’t have any mountains or even hills to deal with.
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I’ve been getting mighty jealous looking at my wife’s new suburban in the garage so I figured it was time to update the looks of my 2010 Silverado 1500 6.2L. I still love my truck and plan on keeping it as long as possible, and a couple grand is way cheaper than a new one lol
It’s time for new tires before my next inspection so why not go with 22’s and 33x12.50 muds?!?!
I’m doing a small (3.5”) lift kit, hopefully that comes in Friday so I can slap it on Sunday.
Also going to black out all the emblems/badges and remove the faded side moulding.
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My wife helped with the new badges on the tailgate last night. She is “detail oriented” like most women so I figured this was right up her alley hahaha
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I’ll post up some pictures once everything is done but I’m excited about the project and wanted to share lol
33s on 22s? Sorry, but [emoji2961]Quote:
Originally Posted by z28ke
That will kill your towing capacityQuote:
Originally Posted by z28ke
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Anyone on here with a 2009-2014 F150 that had factory tow package? I’ve been speaking with Larry about this issue but he has a 2015+ truck. My factory hitch is a class 3 and it is not rated for the new boat and trailer so I need to upgrade to a class 4 hitch. The problem is my bumper is made to bolt to the factory hitch and then they bolt together to the frame. I want to know if I can just cut out my factory hitch, leaving the bumper mounting sections, and then use an aftermarket Class 4 hitch in its place. My father has a weight distributing setup he is not using but I’m not a big fan of having to use the arms on the trailer and have to unhook them when I want to back up or go down the ramp.
I went to Curt mfg site they don't show they offer the lower hitch for my 2010. They only go back to the 2015. TorkLift makes one that will go under my factory hitch but it’s like $630!!! I don’t care if I can cut out my factory and use this one https://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Hit...eid=2010308409
Ford really screwed this up on F150’s, 5000# hitches won’t cut it.
Granted wake boats certainly have become heavier in recent years and challenge truck OEM’s for picking a hitch for the masses.
But why advertise a truck that can tow over 10,000# and give it a factory class 3 hitch without a factory class 4 option, you Ford owners I am sure are aware of the bumper intergrated hitch design.
I had to use a class 4 curt hitch setup that fits around and below factory class 3. Looks retarded I know.......
On a 2015+ You can buy from ford the hitchless bumper support option from the dealer which allows you to use many aftermarket class 4 hitches. You can also simply cut the 2” square receiver off the factory hitch too.
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GM at least uses class 4 hitches
I would not even consider a WDH for a boat. Wrong application.
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Apparently it’s not just Ford that did this. In my quest for tackling this issue I ran across some older Dodge trucks that had a similar design. Baffles my mind why they did this! I also found out you can get a class IV hitch on a ford but requires a different heavy duty tow package that I think is only offerered on 4x4 or FX4 trucks and not a 2WD FX2 option. My next truck will not have a factory tow package unless it’s Class IV or higher that’s for sure. Looking closely at the Curt hitch I linked above I think I can make it work just fine. I just need to cut off the factory hitch cross bar and leave the brackets for mounting the the bumper. I will know more once it stops raining sometime next week at this rate. At least this gives me a little project to do while waiting for the new boat lol.
Even the 2015+ max tow package on the F150 is still class 3. My brother has that package on his F150 and it’s still class 3 5000# max 500# tongue weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by haknslash
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Hit the sweet spot with a 3/4 ton truck...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...07c846ce22.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by haknslash
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Sweet F250 for sure. I just personally resist a 3/4 ton because daily driving them suck. Rough ride. Had a 3/4 GM and would not daily that again.
I got my F150 cured to tow 7200#, just took some doing to get there.
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That's interesting to hear...3/4 ton GMs have IFS so you'd think they'd be great as a daily.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
Even with a solid front axle I daily my F250.
My last 3 DD's were 3/4.....2000, 2013 & 2017. I will admit there was a large improvement in drivability when they finally switched from leafs to coils but I've never been under the assumption they'd float over pavement like a RR Wraith.
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They are. I have a 2015 Chevy 1-ton as a daily driver. Rides as well as my old 2005 Titan. Fords and Dodges, on the other hand...Quote:
Originally Posted by RC_Hinojosa
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That’s strange because a guy on the jetboating forum says his FX4 came with a class IV tow package. Of course he could be full of it for all I know lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
Riddle me this. 2017 Yukon w max tow (8500lb capacity). Yet my hitch has 5,000lbs stamped on it. Read your hitches, a lot are rated under advertised limit. No idea why.Quote:
Originally Posted by haknslash
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Awww....that's cute. My wife's Altima has IFS too, there should be a club or something [emoji57]Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoebox
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Just imagine how many never even bother to look..... I predict many a wake boat owner is overloading their hitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt0520
I actually educated the local Ford dealership owner, he had been towing his nautique on his 5000# hitch, only a matter of time. He was shocked.
Wonder if insurance would be denied if you were improperly towing.
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Ha! Let me know when your wife's Altima, or that cute little f250 for that matter, can handle this. [emoji13]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...3f3b06e82f.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by RC_Hinojosa
This is a really interesting find with the under specd hitches.......I am not sure what year it changed but I just built an F-150 online and you can get it with a Class IV hitch from the factory. I messed around with the Online Builder to see if it was dependent on the trim package or anything else and you can add it to any of them in fact it looked like the only hitch you can add is a Class IV. I currently have a 250 so I am not worried about it but have been considering getting back into a 150 in the future.
They can handle it as soon as you can lock your front differential [emoji16]Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoebox
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No need. If I want to do that, I'll get a Jeep.Quote:
Originally Posted by RC_Hinojosa
Couldn’t get a class 4 factory on 2015-2018 even on max tow package. Glad Ford woke up in 2019!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by TXSurf4
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Ya it is pretty crazy! I wonder how many people out there are not aware of this......Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
I can’t believe GM can get away with that from a liability standpoint. How can they advertise a capacity without outfitting the truck to match it? Trucks are same apparently, 1500s are at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
Anyway, in laws have a quarter horse farm and our GM dealer also sells us trailers and all that. He said the hitch stamp is more used to calculate tongue weight and that’s the important number (500#) that’s listed there. He said none of his customers upgrade the hitch. Either way, confusing.
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In the case of the Yukon being rated at 8500# capacity and only 5000# on the hitch is you are probably looking at the weight carrying capacity. Weight distribution on the same receiver could be double what the weight carrying is.
I know my Expedition is rated for 600# tongue weight and 6000# trailer weight weight carrying but it’s rated at 920# tongue weight and 9200# trailer weight using a weight distributing hitch.
The Yukon can probably tow 8500# with that receiver if it is using a weight distribution set up. This also applies to the F150s. It would be nice to have like 750# tongue and 7500# trailer weight or so with a weight carrying set up though.
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Rule #1 never take anything a car dealer says as fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt0520
WDH will increase capacity no doubt, but that in not in play for a boat.
Towing a wake boat (or anything else for that matter) just requires understanding your equipment and getting facts from equipment experts/engineering. It’s the owners responsibility.
Sadly many out there will never make the effort to do the research and tow blindly at risk. Endangering their families and others.
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Good info on the various classes here:
https://www.drawtite-hitches.com/lea...towing-classes
GM 1-ton has class V.
I thinmk ford 3/4 ton and 1 ton also come standard with a class 5 2 1/2" receiverQuote:
Originally Posted by Shoebox