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Here is a post from Sean Silveria and how he rocks his 19 bags of lead wake.
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How and where really!
My boat will be a trailer queen and a lake hoe.
So lead isn't really preferred, and it seems like the 4000lbs of ballast is already pretty full, maybe could get a taller bag in the rear locker
Need to see more wakeboard reviews from these new boats. Any boat out there can throw a surf wave, but it seems really good wakeboarding wakes are going by the wayside.
Skiers Choice, Malibu and Nautique are still runaway winners on wakeboarding to me!Quote:
Originally Posted by KnoxMojo
I couldn’t get the ATX to throw a moderately clean wake until 23mph.
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lets face it. people buying boats anymore don't board. the younger set are the majority of boarders and not many are out spending 100+k on a boat.
just like pricing and the market is dictating the stupid increases, the buyers are saying surf not board and manufacturers are obliging.
I would 100% agree with dakota if I was in the market for surf and speed for kids you can pull 'bu off that. cousin had 2 lsv's and went to a gs22 due to the 17-20mph wakeboard wake over 'bu. even the coveted xstar seems to be more geared toward surf... and a 200+ pricetag :)
our old tige 22ve threw a decent boarding wave but boater4life's mondo was 2x the wake with less ballast and super clean. boarding seems to be something skiers hasn't forgot.
I will have to disagree that wakeboarders aren't buying boats. I am 43, from, my A22s, to the Mojo and now the SA and on to my next boat, it will have to wakeboard first and surf second. We have plenty of friends that are in their 30s to early 40s that still ride at a high level that would much rather wakeboard than surf, and guess what, we all have the money now to spend on nice boats. The surf craze has both progressed the tech in these boats but also driven the cost up astronomically as compared to other consumer segments, as any dad bod out there with a few bucks in his pocket can surf and have his beer. I do enjoy surfing, but it is nothing like wakeboarding.Quote:
Originally Posted by sandm
Couldn't agree more, Axis has stayed on more the wakeboard path as well, just don't care for their boats anymore. I will stick with Skiers for my boats and just enjoy riding anything else that I am able toQuote:
Originally Posted by dakota4ce
sorry. I should have specified MOST are buying for surfing. boarding is still very much alive but unlike the mid00's, it is not what is driving most boat sales today.Quote:
Originally Posted by KnoxMojo
did the centurion demo days last fall. boats were running pretty much nonstop and not a single rider showed up with a wakeboard but it was offered. singular example but indicative of the market.
you are 100% correct that the surfing tech has made these things stupid expensive. it's not boarders or slalom riders driving the tech.