2020 Models Supra New Features - Speculations?

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08-05-2019, 08:52 AM
Prospersigman

http://premierwatersports.net/boat/2020-supra-se-550/

Here's a 2020 SE550 in black and gold...looks pretty sweet!!
08-05-2019, 09:36 AM
larry_arizona

2020 Models Supra New Features - Speculations?

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Originally Posted by Prospersigman

http://premierwatersports.net/boat/2020-supra-se-550/

Here's a 2020 SE550 in black and gold...looks pretty sweet!!

Well then, I guess I can post this
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...217f2d0988.jpg

New midnight gelcoat. Has lots of ultra blue flake in it.

Looks like the new DSP JL Amps in that SE 550

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08-05-2019, 10:41 AM
Prospersigman

Love this new midnight/black gelcoat.

I still want to see what the 2020 SA is going to look like!!!

Come on Skiers Choice/Drew lets see the goods already :cool:
08-05-2019, 11:14 AM
ChadSA18

I was able to checkout the 2020 SA at Norris Lake this weekend :-D - I think Drew said they would be releasing info this week. Some very nice changes that I would love to have in my 18!
08-05-2019, 11:24 AM
larry_arizona

20 SA is going to be straight fire!!![emoji106]

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08-05-2019, 11:40 AM
MJHSupra

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Originally Posted by Prospersigman

Every other boat dealer has announced their 2020 lineups and changes. Why is Supra taking so long to announce theirs?

Can we see the new goods now please??

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Last year it looks like they announced on Aug 23rd. It's due for something earlier. I suppose there will be some teaser vid or pic first.

https://www.supraboats.com/about/pre...-model-line-up
08-05-2019, 11:43 AM
MJHSupra

I saw a different flake black in the 2020 SL - went with red color. But I also looked at the new color larry posted that goes with blue. Both very nice.
08-05-2019, 11:47 AM
larry_arizona

I do like the colored FXone tower option. The new JL amps are sweet and the SE looks like two 12 inch JL subs.

Assuming the dual 12’s will make it to the new SA.

I noticed the in floor cooler is more of a storage and garbage can, as the batteries were moved to the area. But the storage under the port side helm is outstanding and clean.

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08-05-2019, 12:31 PM
Prospersigman

I dont understand why they would get rid of the cooler in the floor and make it like the Makai with regards the shoe storage and a trash can.

I use my in floor cooler for drinks every time out. I dont even use the insulated Supra Cooler bag in there. I place a rubber stopper like circle over the drain to keep the ice and water in the cooler from draining out and fill it up with drinks and ice and it lasts all day in the hot Texas weather. So much easier to get into the floor than have the cooler under the bench seat and have to ask someone to get up every time you need a beer or the kids need a Gatorade. Not to mention 3 cases of beer, water, ice and gatorade is good for 100 lbs of in floor ballast...until you get closer to the end of the day when the beers gone.
08-05-2019, 02:32 PM
Mobius22

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Originally Posted by Prospersigman

Love this new midnight/black gelcoat.

I still want to see what the 2020 SA is going to look like!!!

Come on Skiers Choice/Drew lets see the goods already :cool:

Soooooooon
08-05-2019, 02:51 PM
larry_arizona

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Originally Posted by Mobius22

Soooooooon

Blood is in the water and sharks are ready for the frenzy.

Always a FUN time of year!!!!

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08-05-2019, 03:31 PM
larry_arizona

Guessing the Supra team was busy this weekend wrapping up the last PWT tour stop in Boise Idaho. Probably rolled back into Tennessee early today.

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08-05-2019, 03:57 PM
dakota4ce

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Originally Posted by Prospersigman

I dont understand why they would get rid of the cooler in the floor and make it like the Makai with regards the shoe storage and a trash can.

I use my in floor cooler for drinks every time out. I dont even use the insulated Supra Cooler bag in there. I place a rubber stopper like circle over the drain to keep the ice and water in the cooler from draining out and fill it up with drinks and ice and it lasts all day in the hot Texas weather. So much easier to get into the floor than have the cooler under the bench seat and have to ask someone to get up every time you need a beer or the kids need a Gatorade. Not to mention 3 cases of beer, water, ice and gatorade is good for 100 lbs of in floor ballast...until you get closer to the end of the day when the beers gone.

I would say it’s probably for a good reason because it’s happened to every boat.

In my Makai I removed that little tray, moved the batteries over next to each other and an RTIC 20 fits perfectly in there.

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08-05-2019, 04:51 PM
MJHSupra

I recall someone on Facebook talking about a soft-sided ? RTIC 30 ? cooler fitting in the center - it was a 2018 SL.

Anyone done this?
08-05-2019, 05:23 PM
larry_arizona

2020 Models Supra New Features - Speculations?

When you see how much room there is in the port helm, I think the battery move is worth it.

I suppose you could throw an 18 pack and ice in the tray and garbage can.

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08-05-2019, 05:35 PM
dakota4ce

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Originally Posted by MJHSupra

I recall someone on Facebook talking about a soft-sided ? RTIC 30 ? cooler fitting in the center - it was a 2018 SL.

Anyone done this?

That is basically what I did. Maybe it was a 30? But I think it’s a 20.

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08-06-2019, 08:59 AM
Prospersigman

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Originally Posted by larry_arizona

When you see how much room there is in the port helm, I think the battery move is worth it.

I suppose you could throw an 18 pack and ice in the tray and garbage can.

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18 pack? What’s everyone else gonna drink?

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08-06-2019, 09:25 AM
larry_arizona

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Originally Posted by Prospersigman

18 pack? What’s everyone else gonna drink?

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Atta boy!!!!!!

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08-21-2019, 01:35 PM
tre

Goose mentioned a ton of good info on transmission ratios above. I have one more question. My current 2009 Supra 24SSV says it has a 1.46 to 1 V drive and a 1 to 1 transmission. When you are talking about the 1.76, are you talking transmission or V drive? Is the trans still 1 to 1 and the V drive is 1.76? I'm looking at upgrading to a new Supra and I'm trying to figure out if we'll be able to get my 76 year old Dad up on a Slalom ski like we can in our current Supra. He needs to get up fast or he can't get up. He can't drag in the water waiting for the boat to plane. Our current Supra has the 340HP ETX CAT and the boat weighs roughly 4000lbs. That is 11.6 HP per pound. A Supra SL with a 450 Raptor is 410HP which works out to 13.65 HP per pound. It get worse with the heavier SE at 15HP per pound. Those numbers make me think these new boats will be awesome for me and my kids to Surf and wakeboard but I'm worried I can't get my Dad up on a slalom Ski. I'm sure the 1.76 and props play a part in all of this as Goose explained. I'm trying to figure out what exactly is 1.76, the V drive or trans? I'd like to compare to my current Supra.
08-21-2019, 03:11 PM
DatTexasBoy

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Originally Posted by Prospersigman

When can we expect to get some info on the 2020 Supras and the redesigned SA? My 18 SL550 is itching to be traded in on a 2020:-D

You know you cant wait. Just trade it in blind.
08-21-2019, 03:24 PM
tre

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Originally Posted by tre

Goose mentioned a ton of good info on transmission ratios above. I have one more question. My current 2009 Supra 24SSV says it has a 1.46 to 1 V drive and a 1 to 1 transmission. When you are talking about the 1.76, are you talking transmission or V drive? Is the trans still 1 to 1 and the V drive is 1.76? I'm looking at upgrading to a new Supra and I'm trying to figure out if we'll be able to get my 76 year old Dad up on a Slalom ski like we can in our current Supra. He needs to get up fast or he can't get up. He can't drag in the water waiting for the boat to plane. Our current Supra has the 340HP ETX CAT and the boat weighs roughly 4000lbs. That is 11.6 HP per pound. A Supra SL with a 450 Raptor is 410HP which works out to 13.65 HP per pound. It get worse with the heavier SE at 15HP per pound. Those numbers make me think these new boats will be awesome for me and my kids to Surf and wakeboard but I'm worried I can't get my Dad up on a slalom Ski. I'm sure the 1.76 and props play a part in all of this as Goose explained. I'm trying to figure out what exactly is 1.76, the V drive or trans? I'd like to compare to my current Supra.

I meant pounds per horsepower. 2009 24' Supra = 11.6 lbs per HP. Current SL with 450 Raptor = 13.65 lbs per HP. Curret SE with 450 Raptor = 15 lbs per HP. Still my question about the ratio remains and if I can get my Dad up on a slalom ski without dragging him in the water too long before the boat is on plane.
08-21-2019, 03:33 PM
larry_arizona

2020 Models Supra New Features - Speculations?

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Originally Posted by tre

I meant pounds per horsepower. 2009 24' Supra = 11.6 lbs per HP. Current SL with 450 Raptor = 13.65 lbs per HP. Curret SE with 450 Raptor = 15 lbs per HP. Still my question about the ratio remains and if I can get my Dad up on a slalom ski without dragging him in the water too long before the boat is on plane.

I don’t think Boat mass per HP is what you want to calculate.

I would look at boat mass per Lb ft of torque at the prop.

You want to include torque multiplication of the 1.76 trans ratio.

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08-21-2019, 03:40 PM
DatTexasBoy

The SA that showed up at our dealer had a 16" prop on it. It had the 400 motor.
08-21-2019, 03:43 PM
larry_arizona

2020 Models Supra New Features - Speculations?

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Originally Posted by DatTexasBoy

The SA that showed up at our dealer had a 16" prop on it. It had the 400 motor.

ACME 3499 16x17 to be exact. Only one prop option on the 2020 400/450 Supra’s

Moombas run the OJ 15.5x16.5 on the 400/450 for 2020.
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08-22-2019, 07:58 AM
Mobius22

There's two prop options for the 2020 Supra 400/450s. There's a 16 x 15 and 16 x 17
08-22-2019, 08:40 AM
Prospersigman

[QUOTE=Mobius22;346219]There's two prop options for the 2020 Supra 400/450s. There's a 16 x 15 and 16 x 17

There you have it...DT has spoken:cool:

Drew, can I spin a 16" prop on my 2018 SL550?
08-22-2019, 09:14 AM
dakota4ce

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Originally Posted by Mobius22

There's two prop options for the 2020 Supra 400/450s. There's a 16 x 15 and 16 x 17

My 2020 SL450 came with 16x17 and with 1000# lead at 1450’ and a few people I can’t quite pull it.

16x15 would be the ticket. I have a 16x16.25 on it now and it’s working out.

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08-22-2019, 09:27 AM
larry_arizona

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Originally Posted by dakota4ce

My 2020 SL450 came with 16x17 and with 1000# lead at 1450’ and a few people I can’t quite pull it.

16x15 would be the ticket. I have a 16x16.25 on it now and it’s working out.

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What is your top speed with the 16x17?

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08-22-2019, 09:34 AM
dakota4ce

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What is your top speed with the 16x17?

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No clue.

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08-22-2019, 09:36 AM
larry_arizona

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No clue.

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Then I would absolutely opt for the 16x15

Is the octane booster working out so far?

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08-22-2019, 09:46 AM
dakota4ce

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Originally Posted by larry_arizona

Then I would absolutely opt for the 16x15

Is the octane booster working out so far?

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That was for the Makai I sold, and yes the Lucas product seems to work. Haven’t heard any complaints.

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