You have such easy problems........take fenders off and paint them or get them vinyl wrapped with colored paint film.Quote:
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You have such easy problems........take fenders off and paint them or get them vinyl wrapped with colored paint film.Quote:
Originally Posted by haknslash
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Part of my thinking of the dark graphite is that my truck is a Ford FX2 which has these dark graphite accents on the running boards, tail lights and a few other places. The aftermarket wheels I chose also have dark graphite in between the polished spokes, so I was hoping all of that would help flow with the dark graphite on the trailer.Quote:
Originally Posted by TXSurf4
Here's a pic of my wheels and truck to give you an idea. You think that would still look out of place?
https://i.imgur.com/5UOugY4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/qOb7DLR.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/h9RTgIi.jpg
super rough photoshop edit .....
https://i.imgur.com/ekPCTCO.jpg
IMO I think black\white would go much better. If you had the gray wheel well accents, rocker panels & bumpers like they do on some trim levels then it would look pretty slick but I don’t think it is noticeable enough to go with the trailer. That being said it is a great looking truck!Quote:
Originally Posted by haknslash
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Agree not feeling the graphite trailer.
First priority is trailer needs to match with boat.
It’s a bonus if you can tie into your tow vehicle.
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Thanks for your input guys. I've asked the salesman to change it to black to be safe. Hopefully he can still get it changed.
Anyone care to share some tips for retrieving the boat on the trailer? One of my biggest concerns is hitting the prop since I've never had a prop boat. I've read some post and a few people said if you place the trailer too deep that is when you can hit the prop guard but for the life of me I can't understand why if the trailer itself would be deeper. I know it all depends on the steepness of the ramp too. Most of our ramps are relatively steep and I put just the front of my bunks out of the water and she glides right in. I don't usually power load but rather let the boat come in slow and get centered on the bunks then I jump out to winch it the rest of the way.
Also any tips for pulling up to a dock on the port side? These boats tend to spin to the right using reverse correct? In order to get the stern to pivot to port is it just a matter of using more throttle input or do they simply not rotate that direction no matter how much throttle is applied? One of the guys o our jetboat forum bought a Helix last year and he said maneuvering at the docks is his biggest complaint since switching to v drive. I know a lot of the skill will only come from seat time but I'm just looking for tips to arm myself with some knowledge before our maiden voyage.
First off, you won’t hit the prop unless you are extremely off. As long as you are between the guide poles and going slow you will be fine.
No need to go any deeper with the trailer than just getting the top of the trailer fenders underwater.
I do not power load, I tie it to dock, then grab truck and trailer, then my wife or son aligns the boat between the guide poles as I back trailer in.
V drives/inboards do suck to dock, I prefer the left side of a dock at about 10-15 degree angle, going minimum speed then light thrust in reverse to stop as the ass end then pulls towards the dock.
Tige has some V drive tutorials on YouTube that will give you pointers.
Seat time is the key.
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Again, thanks for the tips and info Larry. It is much appreciated.
I ran across this young man's videos and a lot of this makes sense and I understand the concept. Docking vid https://youtu.be/3a1JCBl5G38 and this one https://youtu.be/amC4io8tFdM. At around the 6:25 mark he talks about reversing more and mentions 'hooking the rudder' to make it swing opposite of the natural prop rotation. I'm going to try this stuff with a fender floating on the water in a cove to help so I'm not learning the hard way by a dock the first time lol. I'm sure I'll adapt just fine after a little seat time. Like anything practice makes perfect.
BTW I spoke with the salesman and I got the trailer in black ....again :D. He said he will make the change on Tuesday.
Here is everything you need to know about docking.
https://youtu.be/9qHdPhkSSNQ
I have always found a little piece of advice my Dad gave me when teaching me to drive a boat as a kid helpful, I am sure he got it from somewhere, and that is “don’t approach anything any faster then you are willing to hit it”. That being said I am in the same boat as you (no pun intended) as this is my first V-Drive so I will be learning the quirks of maneuvering. I did notice the 2 times I demoed the boat that the sales person approached the dock just like Larry described 10-15 deg angle with the doc on the starboard side and used reverse to stop the boat which also began to pull the rear of the boat toward the dock. It looked really smooth.
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I always laugh at that video. Good stuff :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Shoebox
These videos are opposite of how our V drives rotate. Ours pull the transom to starboard in reverse, this guys boat in the video pull to port in reverse.Quote:
Originally Posted by haknslash
This is more accurate as the Tige drivetrains are the same. That said, 45 degree approach at a boat launch is almost impossible and I have never been able to get the transom to pull that hard starboard without the bow rotating to port.
Again 10-15 deg approach then reverse to pull transom starboard is my go to move at the dock.
https://youtu.be/MS_2fRsHZFo
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best advice I received as an owner that bought a supra launch as my first boat ever......
don't be in a hurry to dock and go slow- similar to txsurf's advice. if you go slow to the dock you have plenty of time to make adjustments. guys that come up hot and think they have control 50 yards from the dock are the guys slamming the boat into reverse to stop and hoping it doesn't hit.
oh ya, and don't be that guy that buys a brand new boat and tries to launch it the first time on the warmest saturday morning of the year so far with no help from friends/family. seen that happen many times and it never has a happy ending for the family.
Cmon, that GUY is entertaining.........Quote:
Originally Posted by sandm
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At low (idle) speeds be sure to start turning the rudder well before you expect the boat to turn. The max is a big pig with a tiny rudder and took me a bit to get used to coming from a little outback v (with the same size rudder lol). You’ll get used to it in no time and be docking like a pro!
As a first time boat/wakeboat owner, I've had this nightmare already.Quote:
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I plan to take all of the break-in time to familiarize myself. Early/mid-April here in Ohio is 50-60F at best, hopefully I'm out there alone with room to figure it out!
You will be fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt0520
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Another tip that helps....pull the bimini top in and boot it up, especially on windy days. That is a giant sail that catches a lot of wind so until you get used to slow speed maneuvering and control, pull that top down.
Great tip, makes a huge difference. I made that mistake ONCE and lost it pretty close to the dock and did an unplanned 180 but saved it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prospersigman
Quick gust and all of a sudden the wrong direction, equivalent of black ice lol
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Yes I know all about this lol!! My current jet boat is very lightweight compared to a v drive, very shallow draft and has no running gear to help under the water. On a windy day the bimini is practically a peachier and will make the boat drift.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prospersigman
As for being “that guy” on a summer day I should hopefully have several launches and retrieved under my belt by then if I get my boat in the spring. I should hopefully have got the hang of it by then and before summer hits. This isn’t my first time so I understand how annoying it is to be held up by someone taking their sweet time at the ramp on a busy day. The worst is the guy who loads his boat at the water while on the trailer lol!! Our lake has more than it’s fair share of those guys. My biggest pet peace is going to the lake only to find out there’s a fishing tournament at the ramp. Talk about chaos!!!
Thanks everyone for your tips! Much appreciated :)
Ideally it’s most efficient to have someone retrieve the truck and trailer and some dock the boat.
Technically you are supposed to drop off someone to get truck and trailer and that dictates when you get a dock space.
My reality is I am the only one currently in my crew that can back the trailer or dock the boat.
I wait until a dock spot opens, have my crew hold boat against dock, I grab truck and back in trailer and crew guides it onto the trailer, I crank it on, everyone jumps in truck and we pull to the tie down area.
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We never pull up beside the dock. I pull the nose of the boat up to the dock, wife jumps out, backs the trailer in, I pull the boat up on the trailer and she pulls us out without ever getting out of the Yukon. Takes a matter of a minute at most and we are gone and the next guy can get in. I told my wife when we got the boat she either had to learn to back the trailer or had to bring the boat onto the trailer. She chose to learn to back. It annoys the s**t out of me when one person is monopolizing the dock because they have to do it all while everyone in his group sits and watches him.
Oh man yall are lucky your lady will back your truck down the ramp! I could only dream mine would get over the fear. I'm one of those people that has to do the truck and boat but we are usually in/out pretty quick. Actually quicker than most people who have a team so those guys like to chit chat are the back of the truck for whatever reason. Our dock also has a secondary dock off to the side from the main dock which helps as I usually put my boat there to not take up a faster crews time.
I do applaud y'all who have a team that just rolls in and rolls out like the breeze. Maybe one day I'll be so lucky lol. I'm hoping my wife will like driving this boat better than my jet boat. Not sure if anyone has drivin a jet before but they such at low speed and will wander a lot at the slightest breeze. It always made my wife nervous. When I drove the Max it literally felt like I had rails by comparison so I'm hoping she will like driving it much better and maybe even can load the boat for me in the trailer one day. My wife tries to help where she can or feels most comfortable but right now it's neither docking or loading the boat. I'm just glad she helps and of course gave the green light for the new boat lol.
That is awesome your wife can back trailer! Full props right there.Quote:
Originally Posted by twkoehn
My wife would never be able to do that I promise you. I have great hope that my 16yo son can soon. He takes his final drivers test tomorrow.
I certainly don’t feel bad doing it all. I am efficient and can back trailer scoop and clear in less than 2 min. Probably takes me longer to run and get the truck and trailer 5 min max
Our Ramps are too steep around here to pull boat out with bow strap attached. Would never try that.
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I agree. I spend more time running to the truck than anything else. I park on the side dock for that reason. Once I'm backed down I can be in and out in no time. I do wish these trailers came with front boarding steps as an option on the build.
I spent 3 hours in an old kmart parking lot years ago and taught my gf how to back a trailer. she's probably better than me at it. funny all the looks she gets as she drops us in and picks us out. only time she ever balked was at the depere wi launch ramp in the dark as it was not lit real well.
we have the same routine as twkoehn and it works.
I have all the patience in the world for those that are doing it all themselves IF there is a sense of urgency with them. the guy that does it all with the family sitting idly by watching and then proceeds to load the boat, pack it up and do everything else while the ramp is full annoys the crap out of me. or the one that offloads his boat just off the trailer, ties it up at the dock so no one else can back in until he parks and comes back while his family stands on the dock....
some people really have no consideration for others.
I am with Larry I never back down the ramp or pull the boat up the ramp with out the winch and safety line hooked. I have seen way to many boats sitting on the ramp to mess around with that. That being said I don’t have a problem being patient with people who are trying to back a trailer at the ramp. I am sure they have practiced else where but for some reason the “pressure” builds at the ramp. What bothers me is the people that sit in their truck and get pissed at someone trying and don’t get out and try to help. I always feel that the rush at the ramp is nonsense anyways. I mean I get it in a fishing tourney situation but also just show up early enough to launch your boat. Lol.
For those that do have an issue with getting a person to back the trailer you, Ford has a solution to your problem on the F150 and the coming 2020 Super Duty [emoji6]
Being a Ford guy I had to throw that in there lol
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I guess I missed that step above, I jump to the front and attach the bow strap and crank it tight before my wife pulls us out. However, when we unload I usually unhook the strap before backing down the ramp. That way we back in, whoever is in the boat, usually my 14 year old, takes the boat off the trailer and I pull the trailer out without getting out of the Yukon. Entire unloading process takes 30 seconds once we are on the ramp.
We have a slightly different approach. My wife drives the boat on the trailer and I back it down. She expressed long ago that she has no desire to learn how to back a trailer but she is very good at driving the boat on and off. Now we too, use the strap until the boat is floating and attach it as soon as the boat is on the trailer. I've seen people do it the other way and it is slick watching the boat just slide off the trailer as soon as the truck stops but with my luck the boat wouldnt started and my wife would be adrift all by herself at the launch lol. And yes, I have also seen those pictures of boats sitting on the concrete at the ramp.
i would NEVER take the strap off and back down the ramp. That is a recipe for disaster unless you know your ramp or its not steep. I recently saw someone do this and the boat came off right on the ramp. Needed a bobcat to move it.
I would never back down without the strap unless I was sure it was safe. We always use the same ramp and I tried it several times after loosening the strap without it having moved an inch before feeling confident enough to unhook it altogether. If we would ever go to a different ramp, I would not even attempt it.
I taught my wife to back the trailer down when we bought our 1st boat 15 years ago..it is really not that difficult. There is no reason on earth why anyone's wife cannot back a trailer down a ramp...we are not talking open heart surgery here. Most trucks/tow vehicles have at least a backup camera these days to help see the trailer when the boat is not on there. I know the newer Fords all have the trailer backup system, my buddy's truck has that and his wife handles it easily with this feature. It annoys the s--t out of me as well to see 5 people holding the boat at the ramp while the guy jumps out of the boat and goes to get the truck. Teach your wife or someone in your crew to back the trailer down for f--k sake.
ok. best ones to watch are the 2 guys standing at the ramp in jean cutoff shorts, full socks, tennis shoes and a wifebeater trying to figure out how to launch or retrieve a bass boat or low-pro jetboat with headers over the transom while NOT EVER getting a drop of water on themselves :)
the length some will go to ensure they never touch water while spending a day surrounded by it and on it.
the jet guys r funny putting the boat in for 3 runs back and forth, pulling it out and standing around in the launch parking lot for 3 or 4 beers talking about how long the rooster tail was today :)
Have you been spying on me at the ramp.....? LMAO:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by sandm
Sitting at the ramp for an afternoon and just watching people launch and retrieve their boats can be very entertaining!
I’m thinking of doing raised/domed boat registration numbers. Not sure if I want to do white or chrome. Anyone know of the cheapest place to buy them? I found some on amazon for $50 but wondering if there is a cheaper place.
https://www.amazon.com/Boat-Jetski-R...t-items&sr=1-3
Best Prop to keep for Max? I have 537 and a 1617. which one should I keep?
Do the ones from Domednumbers.com.Quote:
Originally Posted by haknslash
No, they are not the cheapest, but they are the best looking IMO.
They have the official Moomba font and can do flakes and multi-color.
Hard to see in the pic but I did a black metallic flake with the yellow surround.
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^^^^^This
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they made my last boat. def the company to use.
Yep that’s what I’m doing. Probably pacific blue with white outline.Quote:
Originally Posted by RC_Hinojosa
They have pretty much all the Moomba colors preloaded on their site. $80 is a small price to pay for how finished they make the boat look.
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