I do believe the death rates are going down substantially. In Ky we are having similar deaths per day with 3000 cases as we were with 200 cases per day back in the springQuote:
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I do believe the death rates are going down substantially. In Ky we are having similar deaths per day with 3000 cases as we were with 200 cases per day back in the springQuote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
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Where I live we get blasted all the time about wearing masks. It’s the only way to stop this. Now everyone is saying we need to shut the schools down because the spread in the schools is making it way worse. Well, you can’t have both. Schools are 100% mask all the time. So either masks aren’t working the way we are told Or schools aren’t the problem. So which is it?
Exactly! Perfect exampleQuote:
Originally Posted by UNSTUCK
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I think masks do help slow the spread but they are not 100% fool proof. In Houston in June we had outrageous daily new cases, Gov. Abbott issued a state wide mask mandate and my wifes hospital went from 70+ cases to around 10 by mid July. I do not believe that is coincidence. I think the rise we see now has more to do with people not social distancing anymore and a lot of people just flat out refusing to wear masks. People are tired of this crap and it shows. Even if everyone wears a mask, if people stop social distancing cases are bound to go up because masks are not 100% effective but they are more effective than no mask. And the mask mandates are not designed to protect people not wearing a mask, the idea is to protect people from the asymptomatic carrier who is wearing a mask. Clothe masks are pretty ineffective in preventing the wearer from contracting the virus, they much more effective at preventing the sick person from spreading the virus. Same reason we are taught to cover our face when we sneeze or cough. This issue is full of gray. I just want to be able to hang out with my friends and not have to do 2 week quarantine to go to work.
They didn't madante the masks because there were shortages, they needed the masks for front line people. Now there's no question masks prevent the spread and prevents you getting sick, the problem is we have a large group of people spreading false info and not wearing masks and not socially distantancing. Herd immunity was just another trump hoax, just like drinking bleach or hydroxychloroquine.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
Just in..... Michigan going on 3 week lockdown.
Vaccine NOW!!!! Hurry up FDA
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Lol so you think herd immunity is not real? That’s funny. Look at the statistics of people who get the virus. Over 70% say they wear a mask.Quote:
Originally Posted by parrothd
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All of you have changed my mind. Thanks for the discussion.
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the bigger issue I see and likely points to unstuck's school issue as well are those that have a mask on but are not wearing it properly. putting it on under your nose or down around your chin do no good. my supervisor team get after the younger guys in my warehouse daily about proper mask usage.Quote:
Originally Posted by rdlangston13
then they all go to the breakroom/lunchroom and all bets are off.... we try to push 2 per table and when not eating cover up but no one does. they all think they're young and either won't get it or think it's like a minor cold. thanks to social media..
there is so much misinformation and grey out there.