The Affordable Boat Act

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by KG's Supra24

Out of curiosity, those of you with increasing rates ... have you priced a similar plan under the exchange? How much more was it?

---

Kane is right -- the exchange is a complete joke!! And as far as the rates go, they would be the same as any other broker or insurance web site would quote. The same insurance companies are providing the policies with the quoted rates, the exchange is just presenting that info to the public...........so none of these insurance plans are actually provided or administered by the govt.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by sandm

just finished open enrollment for the next year. my out of pocket went up $9/check or $234/yr total for all insurance(life/dental/vision/health/disability) and no real changes in deductibles or out of pocket maxes.



I think of this every year I pay my taxes and all the money I'm paying for schools and getting zero benefits out of. never had kids and won't ever but yet I don't have the luxury of the deductible for kids. on the flip side, guy here at work rides his bike every day. 50 years old, doesn't have a license and never learned to drive a car. he pays zero into gas tax and road maintenance but uses them every day and benefits from new ones. lots of examples out there where we are paying for something we shouldn't/don't use and using something we pay zero toward.

---

Don't you use/need the roads, police, Fire Department, military, etc. And didn't you at one time attend public school or university...thought so.

Maternity coverage should be an additional rider at additional cost...not a mandatory requirement

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by E4NASH

Maternity coverage should be an additional rider at additional cost...not a mandatory requirement

---

The problem with it being an additional rider is that people will not purchase the rider. Then what? Are you going to turn away a person in labor? No, she will be treated, she won't pay and rates will increase in turn having you pay it at a later date.

Maternity bills likely make up a large portion of healthcare cost and have therefore been deemed to be necessary.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/10...-editio/196653

Not much good complaining about it, unless you've got a better idea.. Even if you repeal it the insurance companies aren't going to refund or rollback the increases..Insurance rates will keep going up every year..




Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by E4NASH

Don't you use/need the roads, police, Fire Department, military, etc. And didn't you at one time attend public school or university...thought so.

Maternity coverage should be an additional rider at additional cost...not a mandatory requirement

---

of course I used public school and my parents paid taxes for it. I won't use it ever again, so why pay?? yes, I get the educated society argument and using this just as a point on healthcare. I also glady pay registration and gas taxes for the roads I use.

and I do agree 100% with maternity being a separate rider. as they say... pay to play. I also don't think kids should get ANY deductions on taxes. you choose to have them and I'm subsidizing that decision.. sucks..

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by parrothd

Not much good complaining about it, unless you've got a better idea.. Even if you repeal it the insurance companies aren't going to refund or rollback the increases..Insurance rates will keep going up every year..

---

One thing is for certain - the insurance companies will not loose money.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by sandm

I also don't think kids should get ANY deductions on taxes. you choose to have them and I'm subsidizing that decision.. sucks..

---

I agree 100% with this. We also need to phase out all the other deductions. Then we can lower the actual rate for everyone and every type of income to about 10-15% and everyone can participate! No more "earned income tax credit" or tax breaks for buying this kind of car or these kind of windows. Everyone pay the same percentage, no deductions, let the free market do its thing


Sent from my iPhone

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by KG's Supra24

The problem with it being an additional rider is that people will not purchase the rider. Then what? Are you going to turn away a person in labor? No, she will be treated, she won't pay and rates will increase in turn having you pay it at a later date.

Maternity bills likely make up a large portion of healthcare cost and have therefore been deemed to be necessary.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/10...-editio/196653

---

Well, then how about actually putting in an actual penalty for not paying. If you go to a store and take something without paying it's called theft...this should be no different. If they are making a real effort to pay the bill that's fine but if they decided to run off on the bill their needs to be a consequence. Make them work it off, garnish their check (if they have one) or as a last resort...prison. People who just run off on a bill don't care about their credit or anything else. So why should they pay. They should be dealt with accordingly. Those that do care and just have money trouble or whatever at least they make an effort. Those people should be worked with. My wife works in the hospital and almost everyday she has these story's of these people who have 5,6,7 babies and they never paid. At a certain point mandatory sterilization should be considered. I know that's extreme but damn! I can't stand free loaders or the tolerance of them.

I'm all for helping someone out who's had a rough go but that's to help get them able to stand on their own feet but not for them to lean on me forever.

Put mothers of newborns in prison?

Lol, should we ship the children to your address?

Also, there is a cost associated with collections ... We are attempting to reduce the cost of healthcare.

Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by rdlangston13

We also need to phase out all the other deductions.

---

Don't scream that too loud new home owner!


Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2