2022 Moomba Max Vs. Mojo

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04-29-2021, 02:18 PM
larry_arizona

2022 Moomba Max Vs. Mojo

I would plan on 4-5% price increase on
2022 MSRP, maybe even more based on the current material supply issues.

I believe MaliBU is targeting 7-8% price increases for 22.

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04-29-2021, 02:36 PM
Guppydriver

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Originally Posted by Wren

Those prices were based on the Moomba website builder. I still will not be able to boat until 2022, so they could change, but I'm hopeful the 10% off would stay the same.

So for taxes, at least in Colorado, you pay taxes for the county you are registered in on the trailer. In Colorado (like some other states) the trailer is the only thing with a title. The boat is registered through Department of Wildlife and it goes by length. My last boat at 20 feet was around $70 for the year. So I think the Makai would be $80-90 total for the year plus the registration on the trailer. It's still crazy to me that boats in any amount but especially over six figures don't have a title. Because the boat does not have a title you pay sales tax where it is purchased as though you were buying any other item. Which works out great for me. Sales tax in the city/ county I live in is 8.25%, which I will pay on the trailer. Sales tax in the city/ county where the boat is being purchased is 4.9%, which I will pay on the price of the boat. Hopefully that makes sense. I have also heard of various people doing strange things in other states to avoid the tax. But like you, I'm good staying off the radar. When I did buy/ sell my last boat 05 Moomba Outback, I paid cash for it and sold it for cash. Because of this I bought/ sold the trailer for $500 and the boat was the rest of the money. So I only paid and the new buyer only paid taxes on the trailer.

Guppy can you post a link to that Wake 9 video you were talking about? I'd be interested in seeing it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt8VVwwEwn4&t=361s

Your tax issue makes sense. I remember now that some Colorado "forum friends" buying a Tige were having helluva time trading in their boat to a Utah Marine Shop because they kept asking for the title (which does not exist in CO). The Utah DMV was absolutely convinced this must be a stolen vessel and refused to issue a title. It was an absolute nightmare for this guy trying to get it straightened out.

You will unfortunately see some pretty substantial price increases for the 22' MY I bet. Also, I have seen a lot of heavily discounted boats made whole with absorbent prep fees which really cuts into that deep discount. When I was shopping last October, my Axis dealer offered me 16% off list price (which is outstanding for a economy brand), but then listed a $3000 boat and trailer prep fee and a $3350 transportation charge at the bottom. Adios discount. We've talked about it ad nauseum on this site, but dealers want to get you into the SC family, so that your Max purchase becomes a Mojo purchase which becomes a Supra purchase...etc
Use this leverage. You might not a deal of a lifetime, but there is still room that is fair for both ends of the table.
04-29-2021, 03:28 PM
Wren

Thanks for the info on the likely increase in price. I guess we'll see what happens when the information comes out. As for the taxes, I will double check on everything before making the purchase to ensure I'm not double taxed.

Guppy, I totally get the 16% off and then the extra random charges they get you with. At this point, if I can get the Makai the way I want it for $110,000 out the door, I would be happy.
04-29-2021, 03:57 PM
larry_arizona

SC does throw in freight $1750 and dealer set up $750 and even charge $450 for the shrink wrap cover and I even got a $450 foreign Materials fee probably related to tariffs.

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04-29-2021, 05:06 PM
Rush

I ordered an SL on January, it’s just about to be shipped. This is my 4th boat from my dealer, 3rd skiers choice boat. I’ve bought other products from them as well. Got 27% off my SL. Girl that processed it asked if I was family because no one outside of family gets that kind of pricing. I’m not, just have a really good relationship with a number of the owners and my sales guy.
04-29-2021, 05:26 PM
larry_arizona

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Originally Posted by Rush

I ordered an SL on January, it’s just about to be shipped. This is my 4th boat from my dealer, 3rd skiers choice boat. I’ve bought other products from them as well. Got 27% off my SL. Girl that processed it asked if I was family because no one outside of family gets that kind of pricing. I’m not, just have a really good relationship with a number of the owners and my sales guy.

27% is killing it. Great deal

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04-29-2021, 05:31 PM
Rush

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Originally Posted by larry_arizona

27% is killing it. Great deal

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I was very surprised. That’s inline with my last couple boats, but this is not a normal year.
04-29-2021, 08:46 PM
j.mo

2022 Moomba Max Vs. Mojo

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Originally Posted by Rush

I was very surprised. That’s inline with my last couple boats, but this is not a normal year.

What dealer is that? I’ll take the same boat you got.
Just have them double the order. I’ll make it that easy

That’s about cost+10 according to seedealercost.

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04-30-2021, 11:39 AM
Guppydriver

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Originally Posted by Rush

I ordered an SL on January, it’s just about to be shipped. This is my 4th boat from my dealer, 3rd skiers choice boat. I’ve bought other products from them as well. Got 27% off my SL. Girl that processed it asked if I was family because no one outside of family gets that kind of pricing. I’m not, just have a really good relationship with a number of the owners and my sales guy.

How do I become best friends with you?
05-03-2021, 07:54 AM
russellsmojo

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Originally Posted by Rush

I ordered an SL on January, it’s just about to be shipped. This is my 4th boat from my dealer, 3rd skiers choice boat. I’ve bought other products from them as well. Got 27% off my SL. Girl that processed it asked if I was family because no one outside of family gets that kind of pricing. I’m not, just have a really good relationship with a number of the owners and my sales guy.

Did you have a trade?

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05-03-2021, 09:47 AM
Rush

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Did you have a trade?

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I didn’t, was a cash price.
05-03-2021, 09:58 AM
russellsmojo

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Originally Posted by Rush

I didn’t, was a cash price.

You did good sir! I will pay you a percentage to negotiate my next boat [emoji3]

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07-06-2021, 11:55 AM
daltong

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Originally Posted by Wren

I feel the same after looking and comparing the Max, Mojo, and now the Makai. After looking at the Makai yesterday, I'm pretty sure this is what we're going to end up with. My dealer said he should be able to get me at a similar price point to what was posted after showing him the build sheet. Mine will be a little more simply because at altitude we will need the 450 motor. But my dealer also said this would be recommended on the Mojo as well.

Just a few pro's and con's to the Mojo and Makai after looking at them (have not taken either out on the water yet) are;

Mojo Pro's: I really that it has the different seating configurations to open up space for the observer across from the driver. I liked the ability to do that. I like that the Mojo bow is still fairly deep. Which made me feel safer with kids up there. Cons: The Makai comes standard with the Pro tower and the Mojo it's almost a $4000 upgrade. After speaking with my dealer, he let me know the bimini on the A3 tower (standard on the Mojo) does not even come over the windshield. Which was a big negative for me and would have likely caused me to upgrade to the Pro tower and upgrade the bimini (another $400) more than the A3 bimini. The 7" screen is also standard on the Makai and a $1000 upgrade on the Mojo.

Makai Pro's: Obviously the Makai is a foot and a half bigger than the Mojo. Which we all know is a big deal. Like stated above the Makai comes with the Pro tower and also includes the 7" screen standard (which I again would have upgraded on the Mojo). Cons: The Makai is a little shallower in the bow which is where I wanted to put some of the kids so I wasn't sure how that would work. But after mentioning it to my wife she just said her and her friends can sit up there and the guys can take care of the kids in the back. I laughed but also know there is more than enough room up there and the three of them would be super comfortable. The Makai is obviously more expensive, but with the upgrades I would be making on the Mojo, it pretty much balances out. The dealer did say he thought the Mojo would throw a better surf wave out of the box then the Makai. But if I'm being honest, I'm not looking to go pro and I'm sure I will be more than satisfied with either wave.

Anyone have any additional pro's or con's to add? Also for anyone who own's a Makai... where do you put your ice chest?

Hey Brotha, Fellow Colorado Springs resident here. Im assuming you're Dealing with Hez at RoMoBoCo, we have a build date slotted for Sept for a MOJO. Curious as to how the new pricing affected the numbers he's giving you. He's telling me we are looking at around $113k-118k with the options we want and the 450. We haven't decided on final options yet, we go down there to pick color and finalize here in the next few weeks.
07-07-2021, 08:45 AM
Wren

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Originally Posted by daltong

Hey Brotha, Fellow Colorado Springs resident here. Im assuming you're Dealing with Hez at RoMoBoCo, we have a build date slotted for Sept for a MOJO. Curious as to how the new pricing affected the numbers he's giving you. He's telling me we are looking at around $113k-118k with the options we want and the 450. We haven't decided on final options yet, we go down there to pick color and finalize here in the next few weeks.

Hey... yeah I am dealing with Hez at RoMoBoCo. Last I saw him was in May when I went down to look at the Makai. So we haven't gotten into the new pricing yet. I'm currently in a holding pattern on a new boat due to some job stuff. I did put a deposit in for a build spot, but I'm not sure when we'll pull the trigger. I know when I ran the numbers (old pricing) with the 450 the difference between the Makai and the Mojo with similar options (the Mojo optioned more due to many options coming standard on the Makai) was only about $2000.00. This is why I started leaning more toward the Makai. It just made sense to pay the extra 2k and get more boat.

Do you currently have a boat? I've been wondering how Pueblo Reservoir is now a days. Hez was saying it got crazy busy with COVID and people just looking for something to do outside. We actually sold our boat (2005 Moomba Outback) last year, again due to job stuff. So I haven't been out on the water in a while. I know when we were going pre COVID it was never really busy. At least not by my standards. I grew in California and my family went boating around Parker, AZ. and Lake Havasu. Out there if you weren't on the water by 6am, you were dealing with constant chop. Anyway, let me know how everything goes.
07-07-2021, 08:50 AM
sleek98

When I got my mojo last October, the pricing difference was like 500-600 between the mojo and the makai. We just decided we really didn’t need the extra foot for how many people we take out. So far I don’t regret it.
07-08-2021, 10:12 AM
Wren

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Originally Posted by daltong

Hey Brotha, Fellow Colorado Springs resident here. Im assuming you're Dealing with Hez at RoMoBoCo, we have a build date slotted for Sept for a MOJO. Curious as to how the new pricing affected the numbers he's giving you. He's telling me we are looking at around $113k-118k with the options we want and the 450. We haven't decided on final options yet, we go down there to pick color and finalize here in the next few weeks.

Hey, also wanting to know. What do you do to extend boating season out here? I planned on getting some dry suits to be able to go out sooner. Then trying to take an out of state trip (Lake Powell or somewhere in Texas) around April and October. I just don't know about those random snow storms that we get in May and October. Taking the boat out and not re-winterizing makes me nervous. It's just hard to spend all that money on a boat for what generally equates to about a three month season. Just wondering what your thoughts are.
07-08-2021, 10:14 AM
Wren

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Originally Posted by sleek98

When I got my mojo last October, the pricing difference was like 500-600 between the mojo and the makai. We just decided we really didn’t need the extra foot for how many people we take out. So far I don’t regret it.

Yeah, I do like some of the features on the Mojo that the Makai does not have. Especially the new removable seat to add an opening for the co-captains feet. Although, I'm still hoping an ice chest could fit in there. I'm still not completely certain. Fortunately, good or bad, my job situation is creating a mandatory waiting period.
07-08-2021, 11:31 PM
dfreeman

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Originally Posted by Wren

Hey, also wanting to know. What do you do to extend boating season out here? I planned on getting some dry suits to be able to go out sooner. Then trying to take an out of state trip (Lake Powell or somewhere in Texas) around April and October. I just don't know about those random snow storms that we get in May and October. Taking the boat out and not re-winterizing makes me nervous. It's just hard to spend all that money on a boat for what generally equates to about a three month season. Just wondering what your thoughts are.

Read up on winterizing the boat and you’ll find it’s pretty easy on the raptor motors. All locations are marked with blue labels and getting all of them is about 20 minutes after you’ve done it once or twice.
08-04-2021, 03:06 PM
daltong

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Originally Posted by Wren

Hey... yeah I am dealing with Hez at RoMoBoCo. Last I saw him was in May when I went down to look at the Makai. So we haven't gotten into the new pricing yet. I'm currently in a holding pattern on a new boat due to some job stuff. I did put a deposit in for a build spot, but I'm not sure when we'll pull the trigger. I know when I ran the numbers (old pricing) with the 450 the difference between the Makai and the Mojo with similar options (the Mojo optioned more due to many options coming standard on the Makai) was only about $2000.00. This is why I started leaning more toward the Makai. It just made sense to pay the extra 2k and get more boat.

Do you currently have a boat? I've been wondering how Pueblo Reservoir is now a days. Hez was saying it got crazy busy with COVID and people just looking for something to do outside. We actually sold our boat (2005 Moomba Outback) last year, again due to job stuff. So I haven't been out on the water in a while. I know when we were going pre COVID it was never really busy. At least not by my standards. I grew in California and my family went boating around Parker, AZ. and Lake Havasu. Out there if you weren't on the water by 6am, you were dealing with constant chop. Anyway, let me know how everything goes.

Sorry for the late reply, this forum is constantly logging me out even tho im a constant lurker lol.

We do have a boat currently, We are coming from a 06 Super Air Nautique SV211 TE. Pueblo hasn't been bad this year, its certainly better than Chatfield; but I'd have to say my favorite spot to go is John Martin but the drive sucks ass. We are in the Glen in CO springs so Pueblo just makes sense. Curious to see what route you ended up going, we decided with the gap being so close and after finding out that the Mojo wouldn't clear our 8ft garage doors to Just take the plunge and build a Supra SA. We picked out options and colors a few Fridays ago and it builds in October. We are stoked af
08-05-2021, 09:16 AM
Wren

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Originally Posted by daltong

Sorry for the late reply, this forum is constantly logging me out even tho im a constant lurker lol.

We do have a boat currently, We are coming from a 06 Super Air Nautique SV211 TE. Pueblo hasn't been bad this year, its certainly better than Chatfield; but I'd have to say my favorite spot to go is John Martin but the drive sucks ass. We are in the Glen in CO springs so Pueblo just makes sense. Curious to see what route you ended up going, we decided with the gap being so close and after finding out that the Mojo wouldn't clear our 8ft garage doors to Just take the plunge and build a Supra SA. We picked out options and colors a few Fridays ago and it builds in October. We are stoked af

That's good to know about Pueblo, which is the only place we have been out here. Like you said, it just makes sense with the drive. As of now we are still in a holding pattern on our boat due to some job stuff. So we still are undecided on which one to choose. We're also considering a move down to Austin right now. We visited not too long ago and the lakes down there are insane. I just want to be closer to water and have more time to use the boat. Especially if I'm spending six figures on it. That's awesome about the Supra. I'm sure it will be an amazing boat!
08-05-2021, 11:25 AM
2in2out

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Originally Posted by Wren

We're also considering a move down to Austin right now. We visited not too long ago and the lakes down there are insane.

I just spent the last four days house hunting in Austin. Prepare to move fast and deal with crazy sellers. Our offer almost wasn’t accepted because the sellers didn’t like the type of lender we were using. Made no sense, because they were a national company.

Currently boatless
08-05-2021, 11:43 AM
larry_arizona

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Originally Posted by daltong

Sorry for the late reply, this forum is constantly logging me out even tho im a constant lurker lol.

We do have a boat currently, We are coming from a 06 Super Air Nautique SV211 TE. Pueblo hasn't been bad this year, its certainly better than Chatfield; but I'd have to say my favorite spot to go is John Martin but the drive sucks ass. We are in the Glen in CO springs so Pueblo just makes sense. Curious to see what route you ended up going, we decided with the gap being so close and after finding out that the Mojo wouldn't clear our 8ft garage doors to Just take the plunge and build a Supra SA. We picked out options and colors a few Fridays ago and it builds in October. We are stoked af

In case your dealer didn’t clarify it, an SA will clear an 8 foot door with the board racks removed.

But so should a mojo with the pro tower option.

Congrats on the SA, it’s such a killer boat.

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08-05-2021, 02:34 PM
mjb929rr

From the springs here as well. John Martin used to be a Nice lake. It’s so low now that you can’t get a boat in. If your up for driving we go to Swanson lake in Nebraska every weekend Always get glass and they don’t require checks or seals on the boat. We have left our rv on the beach all summer there. Worth checking out if you can make a weekend out if it.

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