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Looks like Supra was first to drop. New vid on FB and the webpage is now showing a new front page with SL info. Hopefully Moomba is soon as well!
The Supra right below the SR on the homepage is putting out a Pavati vibe on the interior. I feel like the website is fast and the furious for boats.
Extensions for rear Bimini would be nice
Bow walkthrough backrest is brilliant
Not liking the new center screen gage layout
Bow arm rests make sense
Looks like new floor colors
New flip seat is slick
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Cant get the builder to work but the new SL look sweet!!! Anyone that has one on order Congrats!!
Yup. She looks great. Its probably crashed. All the people trying to build on to see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TXSurf4
Appears SA has new gel line options.
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SA does not have new gel lines
Must just be the the base colors on the builder throwing me off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobius22
Thanks Drew.
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Honestly, the new SL looks sick, but nothing game-changing that makes me want to spend $175k with the insane boat market we all currently reside in.
I like the new SL. Need to spend some time playing with the electronics/screens.
Did anything change on the SL bottom running surface?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobius22
When I viewed the YouTube video, there was something on the plate(s) - did anything change on any of the tabs?
Similar hull design but heavier and more ballast = bigger wake
Tabs have not changed.
Bring on the Moomba's! Geez :)
Builders are not working
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That is true. It has some new features which are nice. Arm rests up front, full canopy now. Hopefully some of that is available on the other models SA).Quote:
Originally Posted by Prospersigman
Builder for the SL worked.
My SL450 build came to 193k. I had a lot of boxes checked. Bimini, thrusters, rear flip up seats, heater, etc.
Out of my price range for sure
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Originally Posted by Holdmybeer
Im in the mid to upper 180s... ouch. Although the builder won't let me make multiple choices on some things ie covers.
true dat.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Prospersigman
what makes me say hmmmm... nothing that anyone is putting out anymore is "game changing". all of these surf barges are tossing up great waves. they keep adding more and more mercedes/lexus "creature comforts". think 10 years down the road as things start to happen.
sl is a nice boat tho.....
Yeah, the SL looks sick. It's seems to be very well thought out and purposefully designed. An absolutely solid boat. I can only see a few nice to have features you'd find elsewhere but not on it... but at the same time I'm not seeing anything absolutely game changing. Autowake is probably one of the most innovative things to hit the wakeboat market in recent years... but that's been around now since 2017. I wonder what the next big thing will be and who will deliver it.
Supra 6.5% increase
Moomba 14.5% increase
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Ouch. Huge price jumps on what was presumably gained on the Moomba side IMO (hopefully I'm wrong here as the rollout is still pending). All the major changes I'm aware of are options they're we're paying for in addition to the base price bump. I think some of the other big brands took a bigger hit than Supra but I assume their 2nd tier didn't get hit as hard. Kinda sucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
Holy price increase for Moomba! Never seen such a huge jump..
Glad we bought a 21...
https://youtu.be/FnUb_Xw0R90
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So the Moomba 2022 site basically just put updated pictures out and increased prices. Lol. Hope it's a website update glitch.
Here...I took care of the landing page for them. ��
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In all seriousness, I'm excited for my 2022 Kaiyen.
The Max got a wireless phone charger slot = +$10k.Quote:
Originally Posted by WildH
They probably looked at all the ridiculous used prices (e.g. 2018 Max’s selling at $85k) and figured they’d get in on it...I guess it’s what everyone gets for driving up the prices (sellers and buyers)..
ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by Mobius22
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I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by uniwarking
Skiers took a big jump from 2017 (SG) to 2018 (SL). Resign hull, surf system, power tower, sub floor ballast, etc.
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So does the 2022 Mojo in the video have flip up rear seats but they are not offered or shown as an option in the video. Yet the new rear sunshade is an option but is not discussed or shown in the promo video.
I would think the sunshade would have been a highlight for sure. Also, Chill Tech or similar is not an option or is it standard now?
The rear seats apparently didn't hold up well during dealer preview so I'm not sure they are gonna be offered after all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Holdmybeer
You can see a Mojo with an A3 and the rear shade in the promo shots on the website.
Chill-tec is an option but it's one color choice, so all pecan or all dark graphite.
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Further thought on price increases, it’s seems to be a consistent $10-$11k per boat and I assume most of that is pure materials cost. These boats really take the same amount of materials.
I didn’t see chill tech option on Moomba builder yet.
Not sure what dealers didn’t like about the rear flip up seats?
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I did some more digging. Mojo has the transom flip-ups as a picture highlight just not in the promo video. I hope that would be an option, having kids in the water it would be nice to have somewhere to sit and watch while anchored.
I assume the sunshade is for either A3 or Pro tower. Chill tech is huge for a "budget" brand. I know my seats and even the gator step gets hot. Could not imaigne having a dark interior without this tech.
Doesn't look like the Moomba builder has been updated yet, it's missing several new options.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
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Might be harder to sell a supra?Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
I just checked out the builder and built my exact boat. 14K difference exact same build.
Also didn't see any new options at all
Based on the price increases for 2022, if dealers still do 7-9% discounts on Moomba and 18-20% discounts on Supra, they are quickly getting to similar ballparks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh828
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Agreed, They are getting a little too close IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
A loaded out mojo vs a base SA is not that big of a jump anymore.
If that is really the case, then my statement about a new SL is invalid. 19% off on a $182K build really gets you into new Moomba pricing quickly. Add my trade in or down payment and I'm at something "affordable".Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
Perhaps dealers are not giving the same discounts currently, but doing the math, Moomba is rapidly approaching premium boat territory.
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That's how I ended up in my SA.
I was pricing new moombas and once I added all the options I wanted I was only 10 grand or so off of a 6 month old SA.
If this boat market calms down you're going to be easily able to pickup a 1 or 2 year old Supra for the price of a new moomba.
IMO it's an odd thing to do business wise to push the two so close together.
I think the vast majority of people don't get that the higher priced boats have bigger dealer discounts so they just assume things based on the MSRP.