2021 Moomba release date??? When?

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Originally Posted by jnr4817

How hard would it be the retro fit the subfloor hard bow ballast in the new mojo to an 2018?

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If it is true subfloor ballast, I believe they would have to split the boat at the rubrail and put it in under the top cap. Just a guess, I havent been to the factory to see how they make the boats.

On a side note, does Moomba have any boats with true subfloor ballast? The Max and Kaiyen that I walked through at the dealer I could lift seats or bins and see the ballast bags. I havent had the pleasure of seeing a Supra in person, but my understanding is they have true subfloor ballast. I have been on G and GS nautique and that is what I think of with subfloor ballast. When you open any compartments or seats the there is no visible ballast bags.

I think the Supra and moomba newer sub floor ballast are bags only.

Previous ballast was a combo of subfloor hard tanks and plug and play locker bags.


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Are all Supra models true subfloor ballast? By true subfloor I mean you cannot see any abgs when you open the compartments or seats. Unfortunately, I have never been able to get in and crawl around one.

Both the Max and Kaiyen I was in I could see the bags when I opened the rear compartments. I dont understand how that is considered subfloor. Can anyone clarify this?

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Originally Posted by mgswake

Are all Supra models true subfloor ballast? By true subfloor I mean you cannot see any abgs when you open the compartments or seats. Unfortunately, I have never been able to get in and crawl around one.

Both the Max and Kaiyen I was in I could see the bags when I opened the rear compartments. I dont understand how that is considered subfloor. Can anyone clarify this?

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All Supra’s now other than SR.

The storage floors were raised and I believe there are only bags under the floor.


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Originally Posted by Isaguel

Or.....
you can look at it this way. If you put 100$ down in long term growth stocks, contribute an extra 58$/month, if you average a conservative 4% return /yr, you will have 21,322.00$ after 20years.

I'm sure there are investments out there that will give a slightly higher yield and still be fairly safe, but, I'm not a financial planner, so, who knows.

Hmmm, when I turn 70, I can buy 2 thrusters!!

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Unfortunately you have not accounted for inflation and the annual price jump of marine equipment and recreational vehicles. I would estimate that in
20 years, your $21,322.00 will net you a spare tire option on your 2041 Supra SA order.

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Originally Posted by larry_arizona

All Supra’s now other than SR.

The storage floors were raised and I believe there are only bags under the floor.


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Thanks, Larry

Flake has been very popular for years.

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Originally Posted by mgswake

Are all Supra models true subfloor ballast? By true subfloor I mean you cannot see any abgs when you open the compartments or seats. Unfortunately, I have never been able to get in and crawl around one.

Both the Max and Kaiyen I was in I could see the bags when I opened the rear compartments. I dont understand how that is considered subfloor. Can anyone clarify this?

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So there is no hard floor over the rear bags? Do they just have those plastic trays over the bag?


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Originally Posted by jcarter20

So there is no hard floor over the rear bags? Do they just have those plastic trays over the bag?


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Correct.. everyone says sub floor, it would be more proper to say concealed

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Originally Posted by KnoxMojo

Correct.. everyone says sub floor, it would be more proper to say concealed

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That is what subfloor means in my mind. There is a dealer in Akron, Ohio near my in-laws, that carries Nautique and Moomba. When I look in the rear compartments of a G23 and a Max, the Max has deeper rear compartments (this is in the showroom). But, when you are out on the lake and fill the ballast the entire G23 rear compartment is still available with ballast full, whereas the Max compartment looses a lot of space as the bags fill with ballast.

Unfortunately, I have not seen a Supra at any of the boat shows and there are no dealers near me. It is my understanding from this thread that the Supra is like the G23 where the ballast is all subfloor not just hidden by trays. But, I look forward to the day I can crawl around the inside of one and check it out. They have great reviews so I am sure they are awesome vessels.

Did the main Moomba.com webpage get updated with some of the 2021 info in the last couple days? I'm seeing the 2021 Mondo/Kaiyen/Makai/Max/Craz. No Helix or Mojo offered this year?

We are looking at purchasing new and after reading through all 50 pages of the Autowake thread, I'm interested to hear whether the Flow 3.0 will be standard/option for the Makai and whether the surf tabs will be controlled by Autowake? (Will autowake automatically attempt to utilize surf tabs before trying to dump port/stbd ballast to achieve roll). Matt Brown and Wake9 had a video in 2018 where they commented on this as being future possibility. Part of a firmware update? Hopefully soon?

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Originally Posted by Hayden

Did the main Moomba.com webpage get updated with some of the 2021 info in the last couple days? I'm seeing the 2021 Mondo/Kaiyen/Makai/Max/Craz. No Helix or Mojo offered this year?

We are looking at purchasing new and after reading through all 50 pages of the Autowake thread, I'm interested to hear whether the Flow 3.0 will be standard/option for the Makai and whether the surf tabs will be controlled by Autowake? (Will autowake automatically attempt to utilize surf tabs before trying to dump port/stbd ballast to achieve roll). Matt Brown and Wake9 had a video in 2018 where they commented on this as being future possibility. Part of a firmware update? Hopefully soon?

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The page isn’t fully updated yet, 1 boat still to come for 2021.


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